[knarf]

Strange ... I've been hearing about all this hacking for a month or more ... but no reports of anyone actually getting robbed.

Am I in a daze or what ?

[HiTech RedNeck]

Maybe your friends aren’t Target shoppers, or did not shop Targets that were affected by the crimes? I don’t know a lot about the Target crimes.

All I can say is wow these hackers know a lot, if using the knowledge for evil reasons.

Someone like Kaspersky should hire him (to be sure, with folks looking over his work discreetly to be sure he does stay honest).

[longfellowsmuse]

we were victims of this… fraudulent charges made to our card…alerted by company and needed to get new cards...

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

I think the card companies are now pretty savvy at disabling cards quickly. Obviously they had a complete list of compromised accounts.

[ConservativeMind]

For the way it was used at Target, it appears the information stolen was all Triple-DES encrypted. This includes both the PIN numbers and the credit card information.

If true, there may never be a compromised card, but frequency analysis might eventually let the attackers do something.

Triple-DES is considered unbreakable today.

[ConservativeMind]

I need to correct part of that reply.

The PINs for all debit card transactions are Triple-DES encrypted, NOT the rest.

[Hot Tabasco]

but no reports of anyone actually getting robbed.

You probably won't since card theft is random across the country. For example, my credit card info was stolen maybe 6 years ago and someone charged up over $7,000 worth of stuff in Louisville, KY.

Basically it's local crime stuff that the papers never worry about.....

[Solson]

Some were robbed right away. Others will happen over time because criminals are smart enough to sit on a lot of the numbers and hit them over time.