Christie still oddsmakers' favorite to win GOP nomination

Yahoo News ^ | 1/14/2014 | Dylan Stableford

[South40]

Scandals? What scandals?

Despite facing a pair of controversies worthy of having the word "gate" attached to them, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie remains one of the odds-on favorites to win the 2016 Republican presidential nomination.

According to Oddschecker.com, a British website that tracks online bookmakers, Christie and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio are both 5-to-1 favorites to win the GOP nomination, according to one bookmaker. Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul (9 to 1) and Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan (12 to 1) are less favored, while Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (33 to 1) is a popular long shot.

[Albion Wilde]

Loser 2016! . . . starring Chris Christie, Jeb Bush and the other GOP establishment favorites.

That's the diabolical media strategy: promote someone as the non-Democrat frontrunner, participate gleefully in destroying their reputation, and continue to promote them as the frontrunner.

[C210N]

Soviet Union, was that I expected millions of victims to settle scores and kill many communists...

I think that things turned out that way was because of the timespan of 60 to 70 years. Plenty of time for new generations to be born into the system of statism and despotism. Folks that just played along - you pretend to pay me and I'll pretend to work. The folks that would kill were all gone by the time of Gorbachev.

Similar would happen here. If we can't rectify things with a COS and/or nullification, even a CW-III would likely lead to a period of tyranny, and a new generation, devoid of 2A-adherants/proponants would be the ones to rise up again. And then 50-50 whether those folks, 100 years from now, kill off the 'Rats.

[Albion Wilde]

Anybody know what we call a “bookie” are called in the UK ? I know it isn’t “bookie”.

According to this link, they say "turf accountant" and "betting shop."

[LibFreeUSA]

Boy. They really want to shove this guy down our throats!

[ScottinVA]

The key is NOT to spread the conservative presence so thin in the primaries that the RINO garners most of the delegates.

I’d be very surprised if, even with democrat help, Christie gets the nomination. Much of the electoral process is built around image, and a William H. Taft lookalike doesn’t play anymore.

[Albion Wilde]

Like Alice told Ralph...’you’re the biggest thing on Television’.

LOL!!

[redgolum]

You are right.

[Albion Wilde]

There are bookies on every main street.

High street?

[Wallace T.]

Don't bet the house on Hillary Clinton winning the Democratic nomination. In a party that regards Obama as only mildly progressive and the Clintons as centrist, it is not impossible to imagine someone well to the left of Obama, say, Elizabeth Warren or Bill DeBlasio, winning the Democrat nomination. The phony Indian and the phony Italian-American can count on winning all the West Coast states, except Alaska plus almost all the states north of the Potomac, plus Minnesota, New Mexico, and Illinois. Throw in your RINO of choice, like Chris Christie or Jeb Bush, and you will either have another round of conservative apathy that sank Dole, McCain, and Romney, or minor party candidates, like the Libertarian Party or a Tea Party spinoff that will drain millions of votes from the GOP-E candidate. That will be enough to tip Michigan, Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Colorado, Nevada, and Virginia into the Democrat camp. The American Kerensky (Obama) is replaced by the American Lenin (Warren, DeBlasio, or someone like them).

Turn out the lights, the party's over. And not a shot will be fired.

[Jane Long]

Rush played clips, yesterday, of Krispy falling all over himself during the Sandy aftermath singing 0's - and Bruce Springsteen's - praises. His slobbering love for Springsteen sounded like a middle school nerd who got a minute of attention from the "cool kids". (Then, Springsteen turns on him/mocks him on Jimmy Fallon's show.)

Just hearing those clips of Krispy reminded me of how juvenile he sounds. No thanks!

[C210N]

Turn out the lights... And not a shot will be fired.

Not a shot to be fired perhaps with the curtains going down. After a period of agony, I'd imagine many shots will need to be fired to get these Iron curtains to rise again.

[LibLieSlayer]

All that I can do as an individual is to vow that I will NEVER vote for another progressive republicrat no matter what. Either we get a person that believes in the US Constitution and who and what we as Americans were founded to be or I vote third party/write-in or whatever other choice that I have. I no longer will go along because they offer me a slightly kinder communist. I also will not put up with snipers here on FR that will tell me that I am a traitor if I do not vote to continue to vote for the treason of the gop/e... and I am betting that Big Jim will not tolerate them either.

[Linda Frances]

Sounds like another “only romney can win” lie.

Conservatives need to get the message our clearly on what we stand for. One commercial simple enough for a 3rd grader to understand. No general terms like freedom, the constitution..., but details of what it means to be free from government control in their own personal life. So many commercials are aimed at those who are already conservative. We need republicans, at the very least, to see they ARE conservative and not with rove christie and other rinos. We need to define us and them in a clear message without the over the top attack so we are not labeled hateful or extreme. Label us educators.

[Wallace T.]

There are only two ways for ending tyrannical governments. The first would be a successful rebellion immediately after the rise of a tyranny. I realize that Franco and Pinochet were authoritarian and ruthless toward their enemies, but they successfully acted to overthrow far worse Marxist regimes soon after their imposition. The same holds true for the immediate overthrow of Communist regimes imposed in the wake of World War I in Bavaria and Hungary. In an American context, this might mean secession on the part of the Southern, Plains, and northern Rocky Mountain states and an ensuing civil war with the bulk of junior officers and enlisted men in the military, especially the combat units, siding with the secessionists. However, it is hard to imagine the Republican hacks currently in the state houses in the so-called red states acting that boldly. At most, they might shake their fist at the Feds, but cave in like Orval Faubus, George Wallace, and Ross Barnett did when the Justice Department, backed up by the U.S. military, enforced school integration.

The second would be an endurance of decades of tyranny until the Marxist regime imploded from its own inefficiencies and the underlying hostility of the population, as happened with the Soviet satellite states and the USSR in the 1988-91 period. The cost in human lives, prosperity, culture, and religious life would be extremely high.

[Linda Frances]

Christie has the perfect temperment and credentials to be a Republican politician from the east coast/new england area. Let’s face it folks, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Tom Colburn would not have a snowballs chance in hell of being elected in New Jersey. Christie makes a good Governor of New Jersey. Perhaps someday he can be a Senator from New Jersey. He agrees with us on issues probably 80% of the time. That’s better than having a socialist bedwetter who agrees with us on issues about 5% of the time. Christie has no chance of being the Republican President or Vice President nominee.

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Trying to stir up trouble? Unless you invite your friends, you stand alone in your surrender to the gop-e here at FR. I know they will come, just like the romney team sent their minions, but unlike the walking dead democrats and rinos, we can spot a fake conservative quickly.

[Georgia Girl 2]

What a joke. Crispy came in 31 out of 32 just ahead of Jeb in the CPAC poll last year. How does he expect to win the nomination without any conservative votes? This is all hype from the Lefterd Media.

Its likely going to be Ted Cruz and Rand Paul duking it out for the nomination. Either one Okay by me.

[redgolum]

Then maybe we need to play the game a bit different.

The TEA party is shot. To much bad press.

Time to go Gramsci for a few years. We need to really work on the next generation, and stop focusing on today.

The left took a hundred years to destroy the British Empire and the West. It may take that long to rebuild.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"we can spot a fake conservative quickly."

Uh, where in my post did I ever even call Christie a conservative? He's not. As for myself, I am a conservative who leans towards libertarian. I have been posting on here a long time and anyone who has spoken knows my views fairly well. I don't have to justify myself to you or anyone else. Quite frankly, I don't care to.

You see, the difference between yourself (if in fact you are some take no prisoners, not one step back type of person) and myself is that I am a realist. In matters of my own state (Pa) and the country at large, I always support the most conservative option. I was a fan of Rick Santorum in the last Presidential election. I think he would have made the best President out of the candidates that were on the ballot. As for extremely liberal states such as New Jersey and New York, I realize that a Rick Santorum would never get elected there. He is too conservative on social issues. I'm okay with the fact that in New Jersey and New York they run a Republican who is moderate on social issues but conservative in other areas. The reality is that if the Republican party runs a Tom Coburn in New Jersey he loses and we get a faux pas socialist. This country did not turn this far to the left in one election. It has taken around 100 years to get to this point. Do you truly think it's going to flip back the other way over night? If you do, you are a fool. We have to make incremental gains. In the Marine Corps, you learn that a war is not won in a day. You have to take the long view. One campaign at a time.

My main beef is with extremely conservative states such as South Carolina and Arizona having McCain and Lindsey Graham. That's where our concern should be. Also, other states like North Carolina should never have a Democrat who claims to be conservative in there. We know what happens, when push comes to shove. They tow the party line. These are the states that need to run extremely conservative candidates.

[COBOL2Java]

Boy. They really want to shove this guy down our throats!

They do it every four years. The only people who profit from it are the consultants and the DemocRATs.