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To: Eaker
If you are carrying a gun sometimes you just need to STFU.

If he wanted to fist fight fine, but if you are armed you need to keep calm and walk away.

Excellent points, and a factor in CCW that I think gets too little attention.

If two unarmed, untrained men get into a fistfight there is some possibility of severe injury or even death, but it's not great, simply because they are in all likelihood both out of shape and not really up to the demands of seriously injuring the other person. Most likely result is bruises and such.

Add a lethal weapon to the mix and the dynamics change. The person with the weapon will feel a logical need to use it, simply to keep the other person from obtaining control of the weapon and using it against him. Similarly, the unarmed (at start of fight) person will quite reasonably feel a desperate need to get control of the weapon to prevent it from being used against him. If he does get control of the weapon, he will then feel the same need to use it to keep from having it taken away.

So the mere presence of a weapon escalates what might very well have been a mere scuffle into a life or death struggle.

This is not an argument against CCW. It's an argument that those who choose to carry lethal weapons recognize their much greater consequent responsibility to avoid confrontations that might escalate into a scuffle and from there into somebody becoming dead.

With great power comes great responsibility. Armed men have great power.

I think statistics show the vast majority of those who CCW understand and apply this. But there are some, as with cops and security guards, who get off on the fantasy of exercising the inherent power over others of being armed. Such men are very dangerous.

495 posted on 01/16/2014 6:41:16 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Bravo!
I’ve practiced martial arts and been licensed to carry for many years. While I’ve been in or around numerous situations where the use of either may have been justified, I can count on one finger the number of times that’s the been the chosen route.
Even when justified, you have to live with the consequences of your actions. The trigger happy morons on this thread are either all talk or soulless dirtbags that deserve the miserable lives they likely lead.


499 posted on 01/16/2014 7:08:27 AM PST by Zansman (Not at the table Carlos.)
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