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To: Justa
"Likewise he’ll be equally hard-pressed proving that he didn’t go in there, armed with a gun but did not intend to harm others".

Just wow....that is perhaps one of the most anti-second amendment statements I have every read by a FReeper and I've read some.

"The fact he struggled with the deputy and the gun jammed on subsequent trigger pull(s) just adds more to his culpability".

I've read nothing saying he pulled or attempted to pull the trigger more than once and depending on the make and model of the pistol it might not be able to proven with any certainty. Further I have not heard if the off-duty (and not uniformed) Deputy even identified himself as a police officer before struggling with the elderly gentleman for his pistol.

If he clears his physical he’s going away for a long time.

Do you think we could give him a trial first or should we just put him away on your say so?

306 posted on 01/15/2014 10:02:24 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

Do guns jam after the trigger is pulled, or when the trigger is pulled. We know the gun was fired successfully once. Did that cause the jam or did the next trigger pull cause the jam.

I’m asking because I don’t know, but if the answer is the latter, then it can be known that he did attempt to fire more than once.

I still would like to know why you think a history of theater altercations involving texting helps the defense (unless they are going with diminished capacity).


311 posted on 01/15/2014 10:09:42 AM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Durus

I posted some links above which should provide some clarification. It was a .380 semi-auto which jammed on the reload.

Ever known a LEO to only fire once?

Nothing is as ‘anti-second amendment’ as a CCL holder blowing away someone in a theater over a civil disagreement. A bag of popcorn and words is not gonna satisfy deadly intent. He needs to do severe time to protect responsible citizens’ constitutional rights.


313 posted on 01/15/2014 10:10:45 AM PST by Justa
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