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To: LonelyCon; xzins

The comments over at the Guardian are 100% in favor of prohibiting anyone from counseling a gay person about their sexual proclivities, other than to tell them how wonderful it is.

What is ironic is that they tell Christians they can’t be allowed to counsel gays and in the same breath complain that Christians are always trying to force their beliefs on others.

Hypocrisy is contagious.


5 posted on 01/14/2014 1:04:41 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe; LonelyCon

Way back in 95-6 at K-State University, they were already teaching us this stuff about judgment free counseling regarding sexuality. As a minister in their course, they gave me a bit more leeway than others, but I could tell they still hoped I’d see it that way. Fortunately, we had a strong Christian professor, Walter Schumm, there at the time. I think he’s still there. I hope the flexibility is still there.

Our position (other chaplains/pastors with me) was that in such things we weren’t bound by secular policies such as this one. We voiced that. The profs at the time were fine with it.

I don’t know what they’ve become since then, but if Dr Schumm is still there, I’m sure there’s an advocate for Christians.

I think the biggest new (very old) insight given recently was by Robertson from Duck Dynasty who described for folks again what we’re talking about...someone putting a penis in an anus, an unclean act.

Christians, in general, need to remind folks of the act involved. The act itself conjures up images that convince of the unnaturalness of the act. Natural theology grabs attention and their gut knows it’s a wrongful act. Revealed theology tells them it’s a sin and that there’s a Savior.


23 posted on 01/14/2014 5:34:28 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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