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Posted on 01/13/2014 11:39:29 AM PST by Kaslin
On the contrary, “the common good” does NOT over-ride personal freedoms, so long as others are not harmed by their exercise. Abortion and pedophilia cause direct harm to people other than those who practice it. A person smoking a joint in their own house does not.
But thanks for supporting the “gun-grabbers” arguments anyway...
Amen to that.
But it is not unreasonable to decriminalize pot. The anti marijuana crusaders are way off base. In my, and millions of Americans, humble opinion.
How you equate ideals like being against “abortion, queer marriages, pedophillia, and so on...”
with being in favor of Obama deciding we should turn in our guns is fascinating.
Interestingly, “gun control” is also deeply rooted in racism.
In what stoned out frame of mind do you see an argument for the gun-grabbers arguments here?
Its bad enough that you defend illgal drugs, but to make up and insert arguments not on the table is just too liberal.
I have my own (small) business. I've been working as a mechanic for over 40yrs. I have two people working with me and I tell them both I don't care what you do at home, but when your at work, NO BEER, WEED or cell phones texting, etc .
One day (during the summer, 85degs) while pulling a tranny from a customers truck (at his house), the customer came outta the house with two cold beers. He went to hand it to my assistant, but I told him no. He became a little pissed off, but I told him NOT DURING WORK.
If any of my assistants ever came to work drunk, they'd be fired on the spot. I wouldn't blame the alcohol, just as I wouldn't blame the weed.
Yep. A nation of degenerate dopeheads.
America has become a damned sewer of a country. Socialism, dope, and homo-marriage. My interest in its preservation gets smaller and smaller by the day. I suspect by 2016, I won’t even bother voting anymore. There is just no reason to.
Agreed.
with being in favor of Obama deciding we should turn in our guns is fascinating.
No, what's fascinating is how far you seem ready to bend over for the "common good", comrade.
Yes it is.
The new Colorado law explicitly provides that private employers can conduct drug tests and can fire people for marijuana use.
I’ve made my point that I’m against abortion, queer marriages, pedophillia, and so on... for the common good.
Twice now you have laughed and sneered at these conservative values.
Tell us. What else do you hate? Tea Parties? The Constitution? Freedom of Speech?
After all. These are also all for that “common good” that you so detest.
So you're in favor of Mayor Bloomberg's ban on large sodas?
There is nothing “stoned out” about my frame of mind, and I did not make up your argument - you did. I do not use illegal drugs and your implication that I do is not appreciated.
With that said, the “stoned out frame of mind” is as follows:
The most common “gun-grabber” argument is “your personal freedom does NOT trump the common good”.
You used that exact argument to justify outlawing drugs.
Responsible gun ownership by an individual causes no harm to others and therefore cannot be justified with the “common good” argument.
Responsible drug use by an individual likewise causes no harm to others and therefore also cannot be justified with the “common good” argument.
Arguing that drug use should be outlawed because some people use drugs irresponsibly is just as logical as arguing that guns should be outlawed because some people use guns irresponsibly.
Remember, I am talking about activities which do not harm other persons when practiced responsibly. As I’ve already stated, your previously referenced abortion and pedophilia comparisons do not pass that test.
Well, IIRC, used to be when you got off the plane in Malaya, there was a amnesty barrel and a warning sign: “Possession of illegal drugs or weapons is punishable by death.”
I don’t think they had much problem with drugs.
But I’m not going to endorse such measures (any more). If foks want to use drugs, there should be penalties for operating vehicles, etc., under the influence, and insurance companies should be allowed deny claims, refuse insurance, etc., based on drug usage. But in today’s “no fault” society, that isn’t doable either.
See post 46.
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