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People may forget that when Jerry Brown was California governor 35 years ago, he punished the voters of California for passing Prop 13.

So the current governor of California has this in common with Christie of New Jersey: punish and take punitive action against those who do not do their [evil] bidding.

1 posted on 01/10/2014 6:56:53 AM PST by topher
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After Prop 13 passed, Jerry Brown punished the citizens of California by cutting funds for policemen and firemen.

At the same time, Jerry Brown established a $1 million art fund that was chaired by Hanoi Jane Fonda

Your typical politician-punishes-the-citizens attitude...

2 posted on 01/10/2014 7:00:01 AM PST by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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Prop 13 limited California’s property tax rates, but has it yielded greater fiscal discipline

No, but then again, that's not what it was meant to do. It was put in place to prevent WILD fluctuations of your property taxes that was causing peeps to lose their homes.

3 posted on 01/10/2014 7:23:49 AM PST by SwankyC (Democrats and Republicans agree, govt coercion is OK if it fits your idea of whats OK)
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Wouldn’t that be 35 years after Prop 13 went into effect? I never heard of CA having a Proposition election in January.


4 posted on 01/10/2014 7:24:53 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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Instead, let us ask whether Prop 13 has yielded an increase in fiscal discipline.

Let us not ask whether prop 13 protected homeowners from being taxed out of their homes by capricious and greedy politicians and bureaucrats who raised their property taxes to ridiculous levels on a whim & spent their tax dollars like drunken syphilitic sailors.

Let us instead decide the success or failure of prop 13 on whether the capricious and greedy politicians and bureaucrats managed to curtail their wild spending habits over the past 35 years.

NO SALE, A-HOLES.

5 posted on 01/10/2014 7:25:17 AM PST by skeeter
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My parents live in CA. What’s misleading about this article is that once you sell your house, the Prop 13 reforms go out the window.

My parents still enjoy the low property taxes that 13 brought to them, but only because they never sold their place. They’ve been in the same house for 40 years.

I doubt Prop 13 even effects 10 percent of property at this point.


8 posted on 01/10/2014 7:51:47 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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My aunt has lived in the same house for 50 years. She pays taxes on a $15,000 house. The market value is over $600K. I saw it myself on Zillow.


12 posted on 01/10/2014 8:35:34 AM PST by informavoracious (Root for Obamacare and healthcare.gov failure!)
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Property tax rates in our county were 8.5%. Think about what that would mean to the value of California real estate. To re-institute property tax rates that high in California has the potential to crash the banking system worldwide.


13 posted on 01/10/2014 8:50:28 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take your home to pay for it.)
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While Prop 13 was a good idea, the politicians have managed to get around the 2% limit. Our property “taxes” have gone up much more than 2% a year. The reason, many of the items that were subject to the property tax, were removed from that designation and listed separately at “fees”, “special assessments” and a few other designations. So while it was a good idea and still helps, the politicians have bastardized the system so they can still increase the amount of money they take from you without calling it a “property tax”, even though it is included on your tax form.


18 posted on 01/10/2014 10:21:40 AM PST by falcon99
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Prop 13 has saved me a fortune over the years.


23 posted on 01/10/2014 10:09:24 PM PST by dalereed
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You know it’s been a success when every liberal in the legislature wants to abolish it so they can rob people blind again (longing for the good old days)


24 posted on 01/11/2014 6:00:46 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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