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To: xzins

Your numbers are wrong. The surge ended 1 Oct 2013, which set force levels to 63,000 “combat troops” not including special forces, engineers involved in redeployment of material, and other exception units. True numbers were far higher even then. Prior to 1 Oct, there had been ~78,000 ‘on the books’ troops in Afghanistan.

As of 1 December 2013:
http://www.isaf.nato.int/images/stories/File/2013-12-01%20ISAF%20Placemat-final.pdf

“The number of American troops reached 101,000 in June 2011”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-us-troops-are-still-in-afghanistan/

The casualty numbers that you’re complaining about were a result of us trying to win the war. We went from not trying to trying to not trying. The number of operations conducted monthly from 2009 to early 2013 were night-and-day different from the quantity of operations conducted 2003-2008 or in 2013.

You can’t have your cake and eat it too; high force numbers, high operations tempo, and low casualty rates cannot all happen at the same time.


51 posted on 01/09/2014 6:24:36 PM PST by Domalais
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To: Domalais; smoothsailing; SoConPubbie; P-Marlowe; Jim Robinson
The casualty numbers that you’re complaining about

I have tried to explain myself, and I am perhaps not writing well. Forgive me if I've not made myself clear.

I am saying a pox on both their houses for not trying to win a war after this many American lives have been spent, and that is not even mentioning the thousands injured.

That they keep our troops in Afghan allowing them to die at the rate approaching one a day is only morally and ethically justifiable IF they are trying to win. They have not been trying to win for some time.

And we know now that Obama was NEVER trying to win according to Gates. The excerpts I posted for you demonstrate that fact: he was planning WITHDRAWAL as he was mouthing surge.

Now, we must be foolish to believe our republican traitors have not also witnessed what the rest of America has seen. They have violated their honor, they have lost the moral right to speak. For they have stood by and allowed this to happen without raising holy hell.

And now we have traitor Paul Ryan and the republicans stealing deferred compensation money from those who have borne this nation's wars, wars that have been ongoing for a decade and a half now when we go back to Bosnia in about '96

59 posted on 01/10/2014 3:08:03 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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