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To: WilliamRobert
>>Now people openly hint at armed revolution which means they have already talked themselves into this course of action.<<

You are sooo far off the mark. Folks grieve over the loss of liberty. No one...I mean no one I know wants revolution. It would be horrific. Ordinary citizens did not create what's going on in our society. The jerks in gubbamint have. People go about their lives day by day. Raising kids, working, playing but Uncle Sugar seems to go about day by day working creative ways to control people and separate them from their hard earned money.

What folks want? To be left alone to raise their children. Stop having big brother constantly spying on them. Stop passing laws on top of laws on top of laws that regulate every movement a person makes. Folks want peace, liberty, freedom, self determination, personal responsibility.

It's not the ordinary Joe-six-pack that wants war, it is the communist infiltrators in this country that will stop at nothing to dominate and control a free people.

Shadow groups? Very funny. How’z bout shadow government.

80 posted on 01/07/2014 7:25:29 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777; WilliamRobert
80 posted on 1/7/2014 9:25:29 PM by servantboy777: “You are sooo far off the mark. Folks grieve over the loss of liberty. No one...I mean no one I know wants revolution. It would be horrific”

With all respect, I wish I could agree with you.

There **IS** a segment of the conservative movement which is actively talking that way.

A segment of that segment is afraid of total collapse and preparing for survival in a SHTF situation (not necessarily a bad idea, though not for the reasons they state — it doesn't take a revolution to recognize that we're now greatly dependent upon an infrastructure that is subject to all kinds of problems, ranging from major natural disasters like earthquakes to terrorist attack).

An even smaller segment of a segment of a segment has, I'm afraid, crossed the line from preparing for a worst-case nightmare to preparing for actual armed revolt.

We live in a constitutional republic. We have votes. We need to be using those votes now — and that goes ten times over for the people who are afraid that voting won't solve our problems. For those who really do feel that way — and there are a fair number on any major conservative website — do what you can now via voting to prevent ever needing to face a worst-case scenario.

I've been around the political world for a long, long time. Frankly, I think the conservative movement is in far better shape now than it was in the 1970s, and we're in a better position to win than we were for much of the 1980s. Those who think all is lost need to go back, look at our history, and realize just how bad things were back in the 1970s when even a solid conservative like Ronald Reagan was pressured into accepting a liberal running mate in his 1976 attempt to defeat Gerald Ford.

I'm not minimizing our problems. They're serious. But Reagan didn't give up in the dark days of the 1960s and 1970s, and he had much more reason to give up in that era than we have as conservatives today.

83 posted on 01/07/2014 9:42:34 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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