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I'm confused. If Jesus never proselytized or "does not" (which I thought he did proselytize in the NT) and if Christ is the head of the Church, then why is the Pope saying we should "be steeped in “the joy of evangelizing”? Does not proselytizing = evangelizing? Should we or should we not follow the example of "the Lord does not proselytize"?
1 posted on 01/06/2014 6:40:38 AM PST by thetallguy24
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To: thetallguy24

Oops! The Vatican will soon issue a clarification!

Seriously, the Pope has all the media skills of Ted Baxter.


2 posted on 01/06/2014 6:42:46 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: thetallguy24

Translation: Jesus loves into conversion.


3 posted on 01/06/2014 6:46:06 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: thetallguy24

Another Translation: Faith in Jesus by evangelization does not come by force, but by love of the other person.


4 posted on 01/06/2014 6:50:43 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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What was that going out and preaching to the multitudes thing?
You know, where there were thousands of people who needed to be fed.
And who talked about hell more than anyone else in scripture?

Epic cafeteria Christianity.


5 posted on 01/06/2014 6:53:41 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: thetallguy24; Colonel_Flagg
The Lord is calling you to be a part of His people and He does it with great respect and love.” “The Lord does not proselytize; He gives love,” reaffirmed the Pope. “And this love seeks you and waits for you, you who at this moment do not believe or are far away. And this is the love of God.” Pope Francis prayed that “all the Church” may be steeped in “the joy of evangelizing” invoking the aid of the Virgin Mary so that “we can all be disciple-missionaries, small stars that reflect His light.”

IBTPWM

7 posted on 01/06/2014 6:55:06 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: thetallguy24

I am beginning to think this man does not understand or comprehend the Bible... THE WORD OF GOD.


10 posted on 01/06/2014 6:59:58 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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“13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in. 15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves.

16 “Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it is nothing, but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.’ 17 You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that has made the gold sacred? 18 And you say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it is nothing, but if anyone swears by the gift that is on the altar, he is bound by his oath.’ 19 You blind men! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 So whoever swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And whoever swears by the temple swears by it and by him who dwells in it. 22 And whoever swears by heaven swears by the throne of God and by him who sits upon it.

23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. 24 You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!

25 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 You blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and the plate, that the outside also may be clean.

27 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people’s bones and all uncleanness. 28 So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, 30 saying, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 Thus you witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. 33 You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell? 34 Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, 35 so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. 36 Truly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.”

Yep! Jesus never talks mean to anyone...he just ‘loves’ them to Himself.

“46 And Paul and Barnabas spoke out boldly, saying, “It was necessary that the word of God be spoken first to you. Since you thrust it aside and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, behold, we are turning to the Gentiles.”

Nope! Never any negative feelings or thoughts.


15 posted on 01/06/2014 7:13:18 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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God Bless Pope Francis!


16 posted on 01/06/2014 7:14:11 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: thetallguy24
Does not proselytizing = evangelizing?

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No, it doesn't.

To proselytize means to recruit someone to you faith (or other organization) or even to induce them to join your group.

To evangelize comes from the Latin (orig. Greek) evangelizo, which means to "preach, declare, proclaim, always with the accessory notion of bringing good tidings, proclaiming the Gospel".

There's a big difference.

Jesus shared his good news, but he always left people free to follow him or not.
21 posted on 01/06/2014 7:22:47 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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The question I have is, if Pope Francis is so bad in his preaching, WHY is he attracting more people to pay attention to him and is drawing in more people?

Thank-you for your responses.


28 posted on 01/06/2014 7:32:16 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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Maybe Pope Francis’s preaching is considered refreshing, simple, and direct?


32 posted on 01/06/2014 7:35:20 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: thetallguy24

Please keep in mind.. The Pope is just a man. He is the figure head of the Catholic Religion. He has his own ideas and free will just like any other man. Let’s praise him when he gets it right and criticize when necessary. We all need to keep our politics and religion in a nuetral corner. Too many times our emotions and intial reactions get ahead of our common sense. Just because somebody is a republican doesn’t mean he is on your side. Just becuase somebody is a Pope doesn’t mean you have to go in lockstrep with all his ideas. You never even voted for this man remember?. We must keep our antennas up at all times. Especially in these times!


70 posted on 01/06/2014 8:48:03 AM PST by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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