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To: Talisker
Do I think a Mosque should tell us what marriage is?

Bingo, you want to end any definition of marriage, and in effect end marriage.

That is a childish point of view since law has to deal with marriage and always has, America has never not had "legal" marriage, even a common-law marriage, had to, and still does have to, be "legal", to be recognized in courts and in law.

100 years ago, 50 years ago, 200 years ago, you could call whatever you wanted marriage, but it didn't make it legal.

Like the rest of the left, you want something that has never existed in America, and cannot exist in reality.

82 posted on 01/05/2014 6:18:32 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12
Do I think a Mosque should tell us what marriage is?

Bingo, you want to end any definition of marriage, and in effect end marriage.

That is a childish point of view since law has to deal with marriage and always has, America has never not had "legal" marriage, even a common-law marriage, had to, and still does have to, be "legal", to be recognized in courts and in law.

100 years ago, 50 years ago, 200 years ago, you could call whatever you wanted marriage, but it didn't make it legal.

Like the rest of the left, you want something that has never existed in America, and cannot exist in reality.

Childish? You been hanging around mrsmith? LOL. What's childish is your attempt to to deny the source of marriage being religion, and not the government. Government administrative processes need a definition to acknowledge the existence of something, but that's a completely different thing from claiming the power to authorize and license something. You are mixing and matching the two freely.

And what's with the bingo, and how did I "want to end any definition of marriage, and in effect end marriage." By pointng out that Muslim marriages are different from Christian marriages? LOL, you think they're not? You think that as a Christian, if you got married before Allah, under the power of the Koran, according to the tenents of Islam, that your mariage is exactly the same as a Christian marriage - BECAUSE a government bureaucrat authorized it under the same federal code? You're telling me that without that federal code, no marriage woult be legal and lawful? And you claim that I am "ending marriage"?! What have YOU done to marriage, in reducing it to a form authorized under the Federal Register, if not killed it dead?

Like I said, go get married by a bureaucrat, and remember, it doesn't matter what religion you do it under, or if you do it under any spiritual traditions whatsoever. Because according to you, it's the bureaucracy that counts. It's the Burearocracy that legitimizes, legalizes, and makes lawful, marriage. Marriage: two people, coming together in contractual agreement before the Federal Code - and everything else is lawless.

Thanks for sharing, it's been fascinating. Let's not do it again real soon.

92 posted on 01/05/2014 7:47:14 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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