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ADHD does not exist [article says symptoms are real, but are caused by other things]
New York Post ^ | January 4, 2014 | Kyle Smith

Posted on 01/04/2014 11:11:27 PM PST by grundle

In private practice, Saul found himself wondering, what other problems do these patients have besides being easily distracted? One girl he treated, it turned out, was being disruptive in class because she couldn’t see the blackboard. Correct diagnois: myopia. She needed glasses, not drugs.

A 36-year-old man who complained about his addiction to online games and guessed he had ADHD, it turned out, was drinking too much coffee and sleeping only four to five hours a night. Correct diagnosis: sleep deprivation. He needed blackout shades, a white-noise machine and a program that shut all his devices off at midnight.

A young man who asked, “Can’t you just ask me a few questions and write me a prescription?” simply left the office when Saul started probing too deeply into whatever was ailing him.

One by one, nearly all of Saul’s patients turned out to have some disease other than ADHD, such as Tourette’s, OCD, fragile X syndrome (a genetic mutation linked to mental retardation), autism, fetal alcohol syndrome, learning disabilities or such familiar conditions as substance abuse, poor hearing or even giftedness. A boy who was disruptive and inattentive in math class (but no other) was, simply, bored by the material and needed to be advanced a grade to regain his concentration.

In a few cases, there was simply no diagnosis. One adult who thought she had ADHD and had been prescribed stimulants by another doctor got a different take from Saul. He advised her to instead return to her habit of exercising regularly and cut back on work hours.

“I now realize it wasn’t ADHD,” she told him later, pleased with the progress she made as a result. “It was just life.”

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1 posted on 01/04/2014 11:11:27 PM PST by grundle
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missing the point. 90 per cent of adhd “symptoms” are normal behavior. 10 year old boy fidgets while sitting 8 hours in one place. no friggin kidding.
I may do my thesis on adhd is an excuse to tranquilize a good portion of the white Christian male population.


2 posted on 01/04/2014 11:16:44 PM PST by willywill
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To: willywill

Actually, 90% of ADHD symptoms are lousy diet. Fill a kid up on starch and sugar and he’ll be hyper for an hour then grouchy and irritable for two. We need to get over our phobia about fat and return to feeding our kids actual food.


3 posted on 01/04/2014 11:22:41 PM PST by jdege
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To: willywill
an excuse to tranquilize a good portion of the white Christian male population.

Don't forget the access to pot we can now drug them up with in some states. Ain't this a wonderful country?

4 posted on 01/04/2014 11:23:23 PM PST by laweeks
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To: jdege

My father ate a diet rich in animal fat, eggs and traditional meat and potatoes type stuff. He was slim and trim until the day he died. I eat salad, veggies and all the recommended stuff constantly and battle weight constantly, even though I also go out of my way to exercise. I swear there is something they are adding to or taking out of today’s food.


5 posted on 01/04/2014 11:39:56 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

You had 2 parents did you inherit your body type from your mothers side of the family?


6 posted on 01/04/2014 11:45:03 PM PST by Ditter
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To: grundle
I never bought into it except, if I ever thought I'd like to get strung out on drugs again, it was an available tactic ..

“I now realize it wasn’t ADHD,” she told him later, pleased with the progress she made as a result. “It was just life.

7 posted on 01/04/2014 11:48:59 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Vigilanteman

A multitude of neurodegenerative disorders share the common element of accelerated grey matter shrinkage caused by excess intracellular iron: Alzheimer’s, Huntington’s, Parkinson’s, etc. ADHD is one of those disorders that becomes obvious earlier. Dozens of studies have documented this abnormal grey matter shrinkage.


8 posted on 01/04/2014 11:50:35 PM PST by kruss3
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To: grundle

9 posted on 01/04/2014 11:53:36 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: grundle

I know people in my family who have a variety of odd symptoms. Some of them run to the doctor and get steadily worse and worse to the point of near incapacity and others go “whoa, that’s weird” shake it off and get on with it.

The ones who have depended on doctors over the last twenty years are in sad shape. The ones who just got on with it are normal as far as anyone can tell. There are others somewhere in between.

Doctors are great if you get shot or your legs broke or you’re in a car wreck. They know what to do. If there is something weird going on, though, they’re pretty hopeless. They tend to just medicate you and then medicate the side effects and then medicate those combined side effects.


10 posted on 01/05/2014 12:01:25 AM PST by marron
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To: grundle

I am not surprised by his findings. As an educator with a background in psychology, I argued much the same thing to my professors.


11 posted on 01/05/2014 12:05:29 AM PST by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: grundle
A boy who was disruptive and inattentive in math class (but no other) was, simply, bored by the material and needed to be advanced a grade to regain his concentration.

This I'm not buyin'. Makes no sense to me as a lifetime math nerd.

12 posted on 01/05/2014 12:10:23 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

“This I’m not buyin’. Makes no sense to me as a lifetime math nerd. “

Then let me explain it in simpler terms:

The kid already knew the material. They were boring him to death with simple math when he wanted to learn more.

How many times can one listen to some idiot repeat that 2X2 = 4?

Get it now?


13 posted on 01/05/2014 12:17:06 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: grundle

http://mrs-obvious.hubpages.com/hub/ODD-ADHD-Bipolar-and-real-hope

niacin success story for kid with adhd


14 posted on 01/05/2014 12:26:54 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: willywill
"normal behavior"

Ditto. You're taking young boys who were meant to be active, making them sit in a desk for eight hours, and a number of them won't be disruptive? My belief is ADHD and Ritalin are means for educators, who don't understand young boys, to "quiet" said young boys. While I didn't disrupt classes in grade school, I barely paid attention to my teachers. Too boring. The only thing I liked about school was the library and recess. I did manage to read a lot of the books in the school library.

15 posted on 01/05/2014 12:30:41 AM PST by driftless2
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To: grundle

Much of our disorder in health is caused by GMO food our bodies have a hard time recognizing odd code.

Find an Amish farmer in your area who kids haven’t sold out

Some like to say it is the vegans against GMO will I am no vegan for I love my meat.

when you start to feel in control of you body by eating the way mother nature put it together you know their is an enemy among us.

Genetic Roulette http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dODdVmvOVF8

Look for grass fed meat same with milk and butter, eggs
The corn they use today is GMO

get back to Saturated fats it is good for you brain power

Big Fat Lies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WA5wcaHp4

It is not easy to make the switch but when you feel bad you are reminded there are options out there the left is messing with out foods and some Republicans too maybe they were ignorant at first but it still is out there bad food.

Big Fat Lies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WA5wcaHp4

This is about the government arresting you if you sell real food we are suppose to stay on the GMO diet

Farmageddon http://tinyurl.com/n3jlwuk

King Corn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvMxIEgbsIo

Enjoy Eating Saturated Fats: They’re Good for You. Donald W. Miller http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRe9z32NZHY

The Oiling of America- she is excellent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKdYUCUca8

McDonald’s, the meat industry, and chickens (from Food, Inc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3P5tmkjHa8

Chicken factories
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enwU5jIXSlU


16 posted on 01/05/2014 12:33:41 AM PST by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: Nik Naym

I went through all that. I was not disruptive in class. You’re misstating the case to say that someone was standing in front of the class endlessly repeating 2X2=4 . ... Oh, you didn’t mean it literally? Then what did you mean?

In my case I recall long division tests. A friend of mine and I had races to see who could complete them the quickest as we sat next to each other in fifth grade. I was doing them one by one, and he hit upon a mass production technique, where he drew all the division signs first, then filled in the dividends, then the divisors, then the quotients, aka answers ... it was all the same.

Of course, we were sitting in the front of the class, and one time the teacher decided to cut the quiz short, just to catch him out, since he hadn’t filled in any answers yet. Brutal.


17 posted on 01/05/2014 12:36:21 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: grundle

Mis-diagnosis? Sure, possible and not uncommon. But,
don’t try to tell me that ADHD does not exist. Often it exists
along with other afflictions. Many of you are missing the
HD part of ADHD in this discussion. Yes, sometimes medication
is over prescribed for some but for others it helps them to
lead a closer to normal life. I have worked with Severely
Emotionally Distubed youth who are at-risk in a residental
setting for most of the past sixteen years and I know what
I am talking about.


18 posted on 01/05/2014 12:44:24 AM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: dr_lew

“Then what did you mean?”

I meant they were boring the kid.

You said you didn’t get it, and I was spelling it out for you.

But now I get it: you didn’t really mean you didn’t get it. You were just trying to brag about what a friggin’ genius you were.


19 posted on 01/05/2014 12:56:04 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: willywill

Sounds to me like they’re forcing kids to take pills to cure childhood...


20 posted on 01/05/2014 1:04:47 AM PST by varmintman
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