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To: buwaya
Potheads=dumbheads is correct.
But still, we have always had the dumb, and pot doesn’t make them dumb, it just identifies them.
I always agreed with Bill Buckley that pot should be legal. Its filthy stuff but banning it is worse.

Yes, we have always had the dumb. But, why would one WANT to make oneself dumb and dumber by imbibing a drug (a gateway one at that) to make oneself dumb?

You yourself said that it's filthy stuff...so WHY make it legal? Bill Buckley was a genius but he wasn't perfect, especially if he endorsed a drug that is "filthy stuff."

It also is a gateway drug. What fun: preparing for the taking of worse drugs.

I was young and stupid and tried it. The BEST part of it was that it left no hangover. However, once was enough. I KNOW how stupid people look when they're high. Not pretty.

Lol. I remember how COOL people thought they were when they were high. One guy saw himself high and shook his head in disbelief and embarrassment. He remembered that HE thought that he was having fun! He just looked looped and stupid, crawling around in the nearest gutter, laughing his head off, having a great ole time. That view of himself embarrassed him.
I don't know whatever happened to him. Hah, maybe he's running a Fortune 500 company now.

I taught college students for many, many years. They learned VERY EARLY in their college classes of the efficacy of staying stone, cold sober...at least when they needed their brains to function and function well.

44 posted on 01/04/2014 9:55:29 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

It seems you could easily apply all of that to alcohol as well, except I would rather deal with someone who smoked a bowl the night before than drank to excess.

It is funny how much my experience with people who smoke a lot is from the stereotype on here. Lots and lots of smart capable people, who don’t escalate to harder drugs, smoke weed regularly.


50 posted on 01/04/2014 10:06:39 PM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: cloudmountain

Just because it is bad is no reason to make it illegal. I live in San Francisco. We have plenty of drugs. But the most pathetic characters on the streets, and believe me we have a world class zoo of disfunctional people here, are actually the hopeless alcoholics. For them plain rotgut is filthier than pot could ever be. And yet ? Can anyone make a reasonable case to ban alcohol ?
And we can go on from there.
The cost in civil liberties and excess government is far greater than the downside of pot could ever be.


62 posted on 01/04/2014 10:31:04 PM PST by buwaya
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To: cloudmountain; All

Pot is not a “gateway drug”. Cigarettes and alcohol are gateway drugs. I’ve met crack users who said they wish it was easier to get pot than crack. They would prefer the pot.


65 posted on 01/04/2014 10:33:19 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: cloudmountain

Having worked with/on thousands of drug offenders for over 20 years, alcohol was the ‘gateway’ drug for over 80% of them. If nothing else was available, alcohol is ALWAYS there. Its legal. In terms of health issues, alcohol is ‘filthy stuff” compared to weed. Most of the health issues I treated were the result of alcohol + drug abuse. Now as a health care provider there are many things that humans inhale, ingest, inject, insert, so on and so forth that I find ‘filthy’ and ‘dumb’. In a supposed free society people should be free to do with their bodies as they see fit irregardless of my ‘professional’ opinion as to what’s ‘dumb’ or ‘filthy’ as long as they accept ALL the consequences of their actions. Problem is society is being forced to pay for the consequences via increased crime to pay for the habits, increasing court/prison costs, increasing health care costs, exploding police costs including their pensions. Drug abuse is as old as mankind. It will always be with us irregardless of ‘laws’. I guess the question becomes who do we, as a society, want controlling it’s use, the light of the public or the darkness of the ‘underworld’. To the ‘underworld’ more laws mean more risk but greater profits.


80 posted on 01/04/2014 10:45:23 PM PST by yadent
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To: cloudmountain
Hah, maybe he's running a Fortune 500 company now.

Perhaps he is now called 'Congressman'...

132 posted on 01/05/2014 7:49:42 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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