[Marie]

If my daughter’s heart is beating and you call her ‘the body’ and threaten to kill her, I’ll pop you in the nose.

What *mother* wouldn’t?

[exDemMom]

If my daughter’s heart is beating and you call her ‘the body’ and threaten to kill her, I’ll pop you in the nose.

What *mother* wouldn’t?

Actually, if I were talking to you about your dead daughter, regardless of whether her body is on a respirator, I would call her by name. But I also wouldn't mince words--I would say that she has died.

I once had to sit with the mother of a brain dead boy and collect information for his death certificate. It was totally heart-wrenching. All I could think of is what if I had to deal with the death of my son like that... I really feel for people in that situation, but I am also a realist. I think that the longer this situation is prolonged, the worse it is for the family's psychological health.

[gas_dr]

You are incorrect. No one is "killing" her. You and ifinnegan have indeed raised emotional rhetoric to totally ludicrous. The child has been examined. She does not breath in the absence of the ventilator. She has no brainstem to continue her life. She has ***NO*** brain activity. If you educate yourself on how this is diagnosed you will find the fact that the heart and lungs are artificially being kept going by purely mechanical means. You cannot ***KILL*** someone who has died (and indeed the LA coroner has signed the death certificate). The scientists and researchers who have patiently explained the state including that her brain is indeed liquefying (apoptosis secondary to ischemia if you wish to look it up) is absolutely correct beyond a doubt.

Not one of us who knows and have dealt with these issues professionally many times is diminishing the awful tragedy that has struck. But the emotional argument not withstanding, this child is dead. The corpse is being maintained for the edification of the mother -- indeed a very astute feature of MBP, and secondary gain is happening. No emotional argument can change the ***REALITY*** of the situation. And Yes, before you spout of, I can stand on 12 years of posting on this site and a purely pro-life record.