I don’t troll. I post my honest opinion and I don’t care about being friends with you.
You might be right, and I might even agree with you about the Davidian’s and Ruby Ridge, but it doesn’t matter if at least a size-able plurality of the people don’t see it that way. The Boston Massacre were the real first shots of the Revolution but history still records them as Lexington and Concorde 6 years later. Had the Founders started the Revolution openly in 1770 it would have been lost and we’d still be a British Colonials. History records Fort Sumter as the beginning of the Civil War; first shots fired by the Confederacy, they lost. The Germans fired the first shots of WWI and along with Japan WWII, they lost. Getting the picture yet. There may come the time when force of arms is necessary but it is not here yet.
If you start something now under the banner of Remember Waco or Ruby Ridge, you will considered terrorists by the masses, not freedom fighters and we will lose any possibility of ever restoring the Constitution by any means. And for your information I took the oath in 1980 upon entering the Navy and I consider it an oath that has no expiration date, don’t you dare question my fealty to the Constitution.
In fact I agree upon one point with you, there is a civil war raging right this very minute. But it is being fought, now, on the political and cultural battlefield. If you take it to the next level before that has played out completely we will lose because most people do not even remember Waco and Ruby Ridge.
The psyops that are being played right now against the American people by the obama regime are designed to do exactly what you seem to propose. Which, by the way, would give obama and the tyrants just the excuse they’re looking for to declare martial law. And at this point it is likely a vast majority of the population would support giving away their Liberty for perceived security. You don’t seem to understand that or you simply will not acknowledge it.
Patience is a virtue. If the government is seen as the aggressor then a size-able plurality of the population, and the military following their oath, would be on the side of the Constitutionalists and would oppose any move towards suspension of Habeus Corpus, and would likely support those standing for the Constitution. Get it.
As for your mentions of California and New York, you can add Connecticut to that list. Those people are giving up their weapons and Liberties willingly, that’s their decision, thus they cannot be helped and they are not worth making a stand for if they themselves won’t take a stand why would anyone choose to shed blood for them?
Had they banded together and the feds and/or LEO’s fired at them then you would have a serious case for going to the next level. But when people choose give up their rights willingly we can’t help them. I have stated on other forums the when that kind of stuff happens in the mid-west, where I’m originally from, I hope the people there are made from stiffer timber than those throwing away their God given rights willingly.
I have my opinions and you have yours. The problem is you sound just like the tyrants at the leftist sites whom just want an echo chamber with 100% compliance of opinion. Yes, I have attempted to spread the message of Constitutionalism on the leftist sites too, unfortunately the progressives on those sites basically want to scrap the Constitution and accept a dictatorship, as long as the dictator is their dictator, and I heard many of them call me a troll and tell me to go away, suspiciously much like you did.
You and Invar seem to be becoming that which you claim to despise, seems obvious that the psyops are working on the weak minded. In fact there is an old song by the Who that describes the likes of you and Invar, at least judging from your posts, it goes like this, “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”.
If you don’t like my opinion, fine, I have no problem with that, but you take it step further by insinuating that because you disagree with me that I should go elsewhere or just shut up and give up my 1st Amendment rights willingly, because you tell me too. That ain’t going to happen. In fact it sounds much like whats coming out of Washington D.C. and MSNBC these days.
And what you fail to realize is that it won't matter when we really start resisting, they'll label us that anyway. Already have in fact and we haven't done anything. Don't let your cowardice keep your feet stone for too long, or you may find yourself standing alone.
Pat Henry had a good speech on the subject, but I doubt you'd get the point.