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Liberals find comfort level in 'NPR of gun clubs'
San Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) ^ | January 2, 2014 | Carla Marinucci

Posted on 01/02/2014 8:10:59 PM PST by Navy Patriot

Marlene Hoeber is feisty, tattooed, transgender, a self-described feminist, a queer activist - and a crack shot with her favorite "toys," guns of just about every kind.

One thing she's not - and proud of it - is a member of the National Rifle Association.

"We make ourselves a special place where we don't have to hear about the 'Kenyan Muslim socialist' in the White House," said Hoeber, a biotech equipment mechanic who says she's politically "somewhere around Emma Goldman," the turn-of-the-20th century anarchist.

Instead, Hoeber - whose array of firearms includes an M1 carbine rifle from World War II and a custom-made .44-caliber pistol - and other left-leaning gun lovers have their own organization: the Liberal Gun Club.

A good thing, says Hoeber, since she would never consider joining any club that has "Grover Norquist on the board," as the NRA does.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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To: MikeNJ

Correction: “the election prospects of Republicans.”


41 posted on 01/02/2014 9:51:28 PM PST by MikeNJ
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To: Eagles6

Best comment of the day!


42 posted on 01/02/2014 9:54:28 PM PST by allendale
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To: Seaplaner

NRA Created To Protect Free Slaves (March 5, 2013)

http://www.westernjournalism.com/nra-created-to-protect-free-slaves/

Western Journalism is certainly not a Leftie Site.

There is also a video made by black NRA members saying the same thing. Pretty good testimony.


43 posted on 01/02/2014 9:56:43 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: CPONav

I have been an NRA member for a few decades, and have yet to receive unsolicited products with a bill. Besides, if you do receive unsolicited products, you are under no obligation to either pay for them or return them.


44 posted on 01/02/2014 9:57:34 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: CPONav
The NRA will give your email address to hundreds of spamming companies and those companies will send you unsolicited and unwanted products accompanied by a bill with the NRA proudly endorsing the unwanted and unrequested product.

I do not believe this is true. I have been an NRA member for almost 20 years and have signed up for every NRA based e-mail alert and offer they have presented me with. However, I have always signed up using a unique e-mail alias that I created for use only with the NRA. I have never received a single e-mail message to that address from any organization other than the NRA. If the NRA had sold my e-mail address, I would expect to have received spam from other sources. Since I haven't, I conclude that the people who whine about the NRA giving their e-mail address away are completely mistaken and defaming the NRA unjustly.

45 posted on 01/02/2014 10:00:44 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: allendale

;-)


46 posted on 01/02/2014 10:04:23 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Texas Fossil

Excellent, thanx!


47 posted on 01/02/2014 10:08:35 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: MikeNJ
I was an NRA member but didn’t renew when they supported the re-election of Harry Reid. Now, though, I can see how I was wrong. Reid was certainly a more powerful potential ally than Sharron Angle for their important single issue of second amendment rights.

Although I am a social conservative and NRA member who bitterly detests Harry Reid and almost everything he stands for, I have to agree that the NRA is a single issue organization and needs to stay true to that. I remind my shooting buddies that not a single gun control law was passed during those cold years from 2009 to 2011 when the Democrats had filibusterer proof majorities in all three branches of the federal government. Even though there were likely many reasons for this, the wisdom of the NRA's non-partisan approach clearly was primarily responsible.

48 posted on 01/02/2014 10:10:54 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

There is an “opt out” when you sign up in very small print at the bottom of the page. I missed it, my fault.
Nevertheless, I do not feel that a paying member should need to “opt out”.

NRA even specifies (again in very small print ) in their privacy policy that they will indeed give your info to organizations they they think will interest you(read: support the NRA or pay for the info).

FR has not given our info out, neither have any of the other forums or websites that I have joined that do not charge for membership.

NRA does with “implied” permission.
It’s a crappy, underhanded way to raise money off of people who are already paying.

I will continue to let everyone know about it.


49 posted on 01/02/2014 10:30:37 PM PST by CPONav
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To: jmacusa

In the second to last picture it shows her holding an M-1 carbine - not an M-1 Garand.


50 posted on 01/03/2014 2:48:30 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: theneanderthal
Fellow Travelers. The Second Amendment has no such reservations. Our prejudice with the source has no bearing on their rights. I welcome them to the fight for our rights.

I would too....provided they fight for all 2A rights. But my guess is they would cave to "commonsense regulations" and bans on AR's.

Just a hunch. But if I am correct, they can GTH. If not, I would welcome them, no mater how looney they may seem to me.
51 posted on 01/03/2014 4:30:41 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: jsanders2001

Guess youre easily duped. Anyone w/ a functioning brain knows liberals love guns. Sure, they trot out a few Useful Idiots for public consumption but the truth is completely the opposite. Liberals are liars first and foremost, from beginning to end. Their problem w/ guns is that you can have them. They would have no problem at all murdering their enemies w/ guns or enforcing their agenda at the end of a rifle. If they ever succeed in out lawing guns genocide wont be far behind. It can happen here.


52 posted on 01/03/2014 5:21:09 AM PST by 556x45
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To: 556x45

> Guess youre easily duped. Anyone w/ a functioning brain knows liberals love guns

There’s this thing called hyperbole and sarcasm that don’t translate too well on the Internet without the /s sign...: )


53 posted on 01/03/2014 5:26:38 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Spirochete
It’s just an anti-NRA hit piece. I call BS.

Probably a little bit more to it than just being an anti-NRA hit piece (although it is certainly that as well). I see the following additional possibilities regarding the article's intent:

1.) Let "Liberal" gun owners know there are "Liberal" pro-gun groups out there that they can join instead of the NRA or other "Conservative" groups. Doing so will both deny the NRA/Other groups membership and funding, but also permit an environment where Liberals who may be thinking of bolting the Liberal fold will be "encouraged" (in the same way wavering cultists are encouraged) from bolting the fold.

2.) Developing additional intelligence (via membership lists) of gun owners who may not be otherwise willing to admit - anywhere - that they own firearms. I'd bet that this "woman" would happily, even gleefully, rat out her fellow "Liberal Gun Owners" in a heartbeat if comprehensive registration if not confiscation went into effect.
54 posted on 01/03/2014 5:33:31 AM PST by tanknetter (L)
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To: Navy Patriot

Isn’t a liberal gun club in SF called a “bathhouse”?


55 posted on 01/03/2014 8:29:08 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: School of Rational Thought
Isn’t a liberal gun club in SF called a “bathhouse”?

Excellent, I'm stealing that and adding it to my gay joke repertoire.

56 posted on 01/03/2014 8:40:45 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: CPONav
There is an “opt out” when you sign up in very small print at the bottom of the page.

That's funny, I don't recall ever "opting out" of anything. All of the e-mail messages I have received to the unique address I gave to the NRA have all been clearly labeled as being from the NRA.

I missed it, my fault. Nevertheless, I do not feel that a paying member should need to “opt out”.

So you claim to take responsibility but still blame the NRA for letting you screw up? The internet must be a brutal place for someone with your level of computer competency. It sounds like you couldn't possibly have any idea where your spam originates from.

NRA even specifies (again in very small print ) in their privacy policy that they will indeed give your info to organizations they they think will interest you(read: support the NRA or pay for the info).

Again, all of the e-mail messages I have received to the unique e-mail address I gave to the NRA have all been clearly labeled as being from the NRA.

FR has not given our info out, neither have any of the other forums or websites that I have joined that do not charge for membership.

Your fallacious non-sequitur argument aside, did you also read in the "very small print" that the NRA lets you opt out retroactively with just one click?

NRA does with “implied” permission.

You just admitted above to giving them explicit permission!

It’s a crappy, underhanded way to raise money off of people who are already paying.

From the whiny tone of what you have written here, I highly doubt you have given any money to the NRA in a very long time if ever.

I will continue to let everyone know about it.

Whiners are going to whine. You sound like an anti-gun troll with an axe to grind against the NRA. In my experience, gun-rights supporters who are unhappy with the NRA's practices or statements tend to tout their support for other pro-gun organizations such as Gun Owners of America or the Second Amendment Foundation. You haven't done that. The fact that you have done nothing but whine about the NRA when 1) you admit that it was your own fault and 2) you admit to reading the "very small print" where it tells you how to easily fix your own mistake tells everyone on this thread exactly what you really are.

57 posted on 01/03/2014 1:39:02 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Seaplaner

Google in ‘’Origin of the NRA’’.


58 posted on 01/03/2014 1:40:12 PM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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To: PeteB570

Big difference between the two. Never fired the M-1 carbine. Fired an M-1 Garand once. Freakin’ thing is a cannon! Thank goodness I was a wearing a shooting jacket with some padding. Even at that I still can feel the kick.


59 posted on 01/03/2014 1:43:42 PM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

You’re absolutely right on a couple of points, missing the point on others.
A retroactive opt out is really too late since my email address is already been given away.
Yes, I missed it in the fine print.
I am definitely NOT an anti gun anything. I own a couple of firearms and love them.
If being upset that an organization that I PAY DUES TO gives away my information makes me a whiner, then I guess I am.

Meanwhile, I will continue to state that while the NRA does some great things for citizens that want to keep their 2nd Amendment rights, I don’t appreciate the way I was treated. Therefore, I will no longer be a member. My membership recently expired, so all of this is only a year old.
You can continue with your membership if you want to, I never asked you to drop it.
I am dropping this conversation with you.


60 posted on 01/03/2014 6:54:51 PM PST by CPONav
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