[Behind Liberal Lines]

.there seems to be a raunchy underclass in the city but have no clue why...its a farming and lake community....

It's a collegetown with a fairly active drug trade and extremely generous welfare benefits, coupled with a government that is actively committed to a soft on crime/alternatives to incarceration program.

[cherry]

well Ithaca is a college town....but the vast land around it is farming...cherry orchards and grape orchards and lots of wineries...lots of corn and dairy.....

I grew up near there and I can say that even 40 yrs ago, there were violent blacks living there and in Elmira,Ny....