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Dallas Store Manager Shoots at 5 Armed Robbers Police Arrive 74 Minutes Later
YouTube ^ | January 1, 2014

Posted on 01/02/2014 6:27:59 AM PST by Zakeet

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To: radioone

That’s what I was thinking.


21 posted on 01/02/2014 6:53:50 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Paladin2

Any self respecting police agency would have immediately investigated that address after a call like that.


22 posted on 01/02/2014 7:01:16 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Zakeet

This day and age there should be a way for all cameras like that to be hooked in to a police department and when something like this starts to happen push a button and it shows up at the police station showing address and owner info also. More jobs, yeah!


23 posted on 01/02/2014 7:01:25 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
A nice hot load for a .357 out of a four-inch barrel would be 1420 feet per second...not 14,200 fps.

Way too loud. You'll go deaf in a closed space. An 1100 fps(or even a subsonic load around 900fps) with a 125 grain will open like a can opener and shred organs and will not over penetrated like a fast 158 grain will

24 posted on 01/02/2014 7:02:38 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Zakeet

sounds like Memphis


25 posted on 01/02/2014 7:06:02 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: Gaffer

The operator clearly understood that it was a robbery, because she said so...

“And you’re being robbed”

There’s no excuse for not immediately responding to a call about a robbery in progress.


26 posted on 01/02/2014 7:06:56 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Texas Eagle

Mmm... I need me one of them :)


27 posted on 01/02/2014 7:07:54 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Zakeet

This happened back in May — I wonder what has happened since and if the police found the other perps.


28 posted on 01/02/2014 7:09:36 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Resolute Conservative

That you do, my fine feathered FRiend. That. You. Do.


29 posted on 01/02/2014 7:09:52 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

“14,200 feet per second”

Maybe an anti-aircraft gun, not a hand gun. That would rip your arm off.


30 posted on 01/02/2014 7:11:16 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Zakeet

Police using lawful gun ownership as an excuse for “No Knock” home invasions
by Coach Collins

by Doug Book, editor

Texas courts have ruled that because legally owned firearms represent “a threat of physical violence” to police, officers may ignore the 4th Amendment rights of Texas residents by treating ALL legally issued warrants as “No Knock” warrants, even if the issuing judge has made it clear that officers “...must knock on the door and announce their identity and purpose before attempting a forcible entry.”

In August of 2006, police in Collin County, Texas obtained a warrant to search the home of John Quinn based on information that Quinn’s son might be keeping a controlled substance on the premises. Although the warrant “...did not authorize police to enter the residence without knocking and announcing their entry,” the County SWAT Team broke through Quinn’s door unannounced, “...based solely on the suspicion that there were firearms in the Quinn household.” Not aware of who had broken into his home, the suddenly awakened Quinn was shot by officers as he grabbed a nearby gun for the purpose of defending his life, family and property. All firearms in the home were legally owned by Quinn. Police discovered less than 1 gm of cocaine on the premises.

When Quinn took the Collin County SWAT Team to court for ignoring the terms of the search warrant by turning it into a “No Knock” warrant, the court ruled that “...because police had information that guns were present at the residence, they were justified in making a forced and unannounced invasion into Quinn’s home.” In short, a judge decided John Quinn represented a criminal danger based upon the legal exercise of his 2nd amendment rights.

The Rutherford Institute has petitioned the Supreme Court to hear the Quinn case, writing to the Court that:

“...in the absence of any evidence of actual danger to police, the legal possession of a firearm, as guaranteed by the Second Amendment, is not sufficient to justify allowing police to override the Fourth Amendment’s protection against unannounced “no-knock” home invasions when executing warrants.”

The Supreme Court has ruled on a number of occasions that law enforcement may NOT look upon the free exercise of constitutionally protected rights as an inference of guilt. For example, police may NOT presume that because an individual asserts his right to remain silent or speak with an attorney, he is deserving of additional suspicion of guilt.

Should Americans who exercise their God given, constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms be refused the 4th Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures? The suggestion by law enforcement, courts or lawmakers that the exercise of one constitutionally protected right should somehow render an American ineligible for the free exercise of—or protection guaranteed by—another right is despicable, disgraceful and a thoroughly unconstitutional assault on each of us.

Law enforcement has been given the “legal” authority to view Texas gun owners as potential criminals and to treat them accordingly. Every armed Texan is therefore presumed guilty until proven innocent. Does this mean police may legally gun down the holder of a Concealed Carry license on sight, based on the belief that being armed makes such a person likely to kill an officer?

Courts have dramatically weakened our 4th Amendment protections during the past several decades. If this trend is not reversed, open warfare will eventually become the only means of reclaiming lost liberty.

Sources:

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/on_the_front_lines/rutherford_institute_asks_us_supreme_court_to_ensure_that_lawful_gun_owners

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Additional reading:

http://www.examiner.com/article/government-violations-of-4th-amendment-tsa-airport-procedures

http://libertycrier.com/u-s-constitution/did-police-officers-violate-a-homeowners-fourth-amendment-rights/?utm_source=The+Liberty+Crier&utm_campaign=359e249b8a-The_Liberty_Crier_Daily_News_3_9_2013&utm_medium=email


31 posted on 01/02/2014 7:11:35 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Oh. Maybe I was thinking of a peregrine falcon.


32 posted on 01/02/2014 7:11:55 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Zakeet

If this had happened in Houston, the guy would still be waiting for the police to show up.


33 posted on 01/02/2014 7:13:11 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Zakeet

Critics Question DPD Explanation for 911 Delay

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Critics-Question-DPD-Explanation-for-911-Delay-206691811.html


34 posted on 01/02/2014 7:14:05 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: KeyLargo
Texas courts have ruled that because legally owned firearms represent “a threat of physical violence” to police, officers may ignore the 4th Amendment rights of Texas residents by treating ALL legally issued warrants as “No Knock” warrants,

One of the many reasons "gun registration" is a flawed procedure.

35 posted on 01/02/2014 7:18:05 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Monterrosa-24

I’m not sure I’d want to fire a .357 with a 14,200 fps muzzle velocity. That might be just a bit much for me to handle comfortably. :=) On second thought, it might be fun to try - once.


36 posted on 01/02/2014 7:19:31 AM PST by Bob
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To: Texas Eagle
Response time for .357 Magnum: 14,200 feet per second

Not good enough. I need something that travels at 0.97 C.

I want increased mass and Doppler blue-shift.

37 posted on 01/02/2014 7:23:08 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

I would love to see the expansion of a 135gr JHP and the wound cavity at 14k fps!


38 posted on 01/02/2014 7:24:00 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Lazamataz

That’swhatI’mtalkin’’bout.


39 posted on 01/02/2014 7:24:55 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

Actually, I underestimated the speed I’d need. I’d need it to travel at .9999999999999999 C, at which time, an 11.7 gram bullet would weigh 641 tons.


40 posted on 01/02/2014 7:31:46 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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