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To: stevie_d_64

I am not forgetting the “unalienable rights” - I am denying they exist. I am flat out saying that the Authority higher than governments gave us virtues rather than rights.

Knowledge of virtues is older than the Bible. They were known by the Apostles and Evangelists, who did not know of rights in the Roman Empire beyond what the Empire granted to its citizens.

There is no “just right” or “just wrong”. Rather, God gave us the answers to the question of how to live well until we grew up and learned the reasons why a given thing was right or wrong. This was the overall lesson of St. Paul in Galatians.

This country will be blessed again when the people are once again virtuous.


18 posted on 01/02/2014 2:59:50 AM PST by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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To: Seraphicaviary

“This country will be blessed again when the people are once again virtuous.”

The one thing (so far) we are on the same page with...No prob...

So if you deny an “unalienebale right” as one that has already existed, then why was it inspired to enumerate them in such a way back when T.J. put them down on parchement???

“Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness???” what are these, if they are not at least mentioned as they were in that document so that people could, without a doubt, be inclusive to their purpose???

I would say there is some wiggle room if you wish to parse the “virtue/unalienable rights” debate, I’m not really trying to throw rocks at that aspect...I believe virtues and unalienable rights can co-exist, intertwine, and not get twisted up with an individuals freedoms and liberties, yet give that individual the ammunition to battle the forces aligned to take away both, as you have defined...

Ehhhhhhh, its alll being white washed by forces bigger and badder than we are anyway...I kinda wish we were able to put up a better fight...

Check your FReepmail...I have an off-line question for ya...


19 posted on 01/02/2014 4:54:21 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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