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Environmentalists Face Day of Reckoning on Keystone Pipeline
National Journal ^ | December 30, 2013 | Ben Geman

Posted on 12/31/2013 5:41:12 AM PST by thackney

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1 posted on 12/31/2013 5:41:12 AM PST by thackney
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To: thackney

Our damn president...The pipeline is a short cut from the existing line. This should have been approved years ago. He’s damn embarrassing. Canada is about the only friendly neighbor we have in the Americas.


2 posted on 12/31/2013 5:50:40 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Obama was never against the pipeline. It’s the environmentalists who he has to kiss up to as long as they’re needed. Not much longer.


3 posted on 12/31/2013 5:57:51 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: thackney
Killing Keystone has been a tremendous victory. That dirty Canadian oil will not sully the amber waves of grain that grow in the western US.

Instead it will be shipped over the Rockies via the all-Canadian Northern Gateway Pipeline to the terminal at Kitimat. Then on to Chinese bound tankers and offloaded at Dalian, China and other points east.

In one stroke, killing Keystone has resulted in:

1) Weakening the US economy.
2) Strengthening the Chinese economy.
3) Creating doubt in Canada about America's reliability as an economic ally.

Whose policy is this?

4 posted on 12/31/2013 5:59:23 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: thackney

If the pipeline is approved, maybe they can focus their energies on melting the Anarctic ice that has trapped the global warming research boat. One bucket at a time.


5 posted on 12/31/2013 6:00:09 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: thackney

Obama is NOT gonna OK the pipeline - ever.

He has refused to do so since day one. He is receiving little public criticism for his refusal & the MSM has his back on this. He ignores Canada. Domestic oil/gas production is soaring.

What possible incentive does he have to approve?


6 posted on 12/31/2013 6:02:26 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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He needs to talk as if approval is possible, up until the next elections.


7 posted on 12/31/2013 6:06:32 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

http://grist.org/news/obama-oks-pipeline-that-will-help-canadas-tar-sands-industry/


8 posted on 12/31/2013 6:08:23 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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9 posted on 12/31/2013 6:12:19 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Mister Da

The oil/train accident in North Dakota would have been averted if the oil was moving via pipeline. But the pipeline ? is too dangerous. Warren Buffets trains are safer, so they say.


10 posted on 12/31/2013 6:15:04 AM PST by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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Yeah, all he does is talk & it’s all lies.

I’m wondering, with all our increased domestic production, do we have the refining capacity to handle the Canadian crude?


11 posted on 12/31/2013 6:16:31 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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why the heck does that pipeline shown bend out of the way to go through Illinois ?

who designed that?


12 posted on 12/31/2013 6:23:54 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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It is an existing pipeline that was originally built to bring oil from Canada to the refineries in that area. This project is reversing the flow and changing from crude oil to gas condensate (natural gas liquids like propane, ethane, butane),


13 posted on 12/31/2013 6:32:09 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

It is an existing pipeline that was originally built to bring oil from Canada to the refineries in that area. This project is reversing the flow and changing from crude oil to gas condensate (natural gas liquids like propane, ethane, butane),


14 posted on 12/31/2013 6:32:09 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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I’m wondering, with all our increased domestic production, do we have the refining capacity to handle the Canadian crude?

Yes. We currently produce ~7.8 MMBPD of crude oil.

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M

Our refinery capacity is ~17.6 MMBPD.

U. S. Operating Crude Oil Distillation Capacity
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MOCGGUS2&f=M

We are currently importing ~7.5 MMBPD. Getting more from Canada and less from OPEC would be a good thing.

U.S. Imports by Country of Origin
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_epc0_im0_mbblpd_m.htm

15 posted on 12/31/2013 6:38:08 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To Obama, It’s better to have train derailments to prove a point.

Then EPA can move in and shut it all down.


16 posted on 12/31/2013 6:39:26 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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Let’s see now. Kill the Keystone Pipeline and ship the oil over the rails in those things called TRAINS.
This very morning I’ve been reading about ANOTHER(!!!) train wreck involving oil transport that is threatening another town. People in a several mile radius are advised to evacuate.
The Sierra Club seems to want a “People Free Zone” created across the country..sort of a new railroad “Right of Way.”
Idiocy as well an environmental disasters on wheels.


17 posted on 12/31/2013 7:09:21 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

HORSEPUCKEY


18 posted on 12/31/2013 7:09:23 AM PST by albertabound
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it's a defeat for 350.org, Sierra Club, et al, with no real strategy for what comes next,"

Oh...I dunno....go back to planting trees or something that actually helps the environment? (as opposed to advancing Marxism)?


19 posted on 12/31/2013 7:21:51 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Where is the lawsuit against the railroad company whose trains spilled a bunch of oil yesterday? Does Warren Buffett own that train? Is that why there is little news about it today?


20 posted on 12/31/2013 8:42:30 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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