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Must Americans accept polygamy alongside same-sex marriage?
The Myrtle Beach Sun News ^ | December 26, 2013 | Joel Mathis and Ben Boychuk

Posted on 12/28/2013 7:07:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A federal judge last week struck down part of Utah’s ban on polygamy – the state can no longer prosecute adult men and women who “cohabitate” in numbers larger than the traditional pair. Critics suggested the ruling was a natural next step after the success of same-sex marriage campaigns and lawsuits in recent years.

But Kody Brown, the fundamentalist Mormon “Sister Wives” star whose case sparked the ruling, proclaimed it a victory for religious freedom.

Is polygamy inevitable? Are we headed down the slippery slope? Joel Mathis and Ben Boychuk, the RedBlueAmerica columnists, debate the issue.

Joel Mathis

What’s sacred to one person is often profane to another. Obvious, yes, but a point often in need of deep reconsideration.

Need proof? Here’s my sparring partner, Ben Boychuk, commenting two weeks ago on whether Hobby Lobby should be forced to abide by Obamacare mandates to provide birth-control coverage to its employees: “The First Amendment is supposed to be a bulwark against government encroachment on the free exercise of religion.”

He’s (ahem) making a somewhat different argument this week.

Yes, it is a bit hilarious to watch the same conservatives – who were just passionately advocating the inviolable importance of the First Amendment – suddenly remember other priorities. It helps you understand that when they say “religious liberty,” they often mean “Christian privilege,” and no, the two are not the same.

Now, I don’t want to be in the position of defending polygamy. While there may be exceptions, it appears to me that women in such situations are usually less than full partners – often bound to such relationships before (and whether or not) they give their full consent. That’s bad.

Understand, though, the state of Utah wasn’t just denying Kody Brown legal recognition for his multiple relationships – it was denying that Brown and his “sister wives” even have the right to live in the same place. That’s a rather considerable intrusion on personal freedom, if you think about it. The state needs a rational basis, a showing of legitimate harm, to interfere with such freedoms – and no, general squeamishness doesn’t suffice.

Critics say the Utah decision was made possible by the logic of the 2002 Supreme Court decision striking down laws banning homosexual conduct. They are right about that and there’s no point in denying it; they are wrong in suggesting it means the end of the world. It might get messy at times, but we'll get it worked out. In the meantime: Civilization will chug along, much as it always does.

Ben Boychuk

Liberals favor a broad reading of the Bill of Rights – until they don’t. Does it matter that polygamy was illegal everywhere in America when the states ratified the First Amendment in 1789? Not at all, our liberal friends say.

Our “living” Constitution all but requires Americans to accept that standards evolve and truths are negotiable. Times change.

So liberals agree religious liberty should be absolute – unless your beliefs collide with the prevailing progressive orthodoxy. In that case, kindly shut up and knuckle under. It’s the American way.

That’s a far cry from the Founders’ view, which flatly rejected that just any claim to religious liberty was legitimate. The Aztecs, for example, believed human sacrifice was a religious duty. No one would accept murder as “free exercise of religion” – well, almost no one. We’re a big country. Somebody, somewhere might think human sacrifice is copasetic, just as a lot of people have convinced themselves polygamy is just fine.

Times really do change. Republicans in their 1856 platform urged Congress “to prohibit … those twin relics of barbarism, polygamy and slavery.”

Every school child today understands slavery was wrong. It deprived humans of their natural liberty. What about polygamy?

Polygamy says one woman isn’t enough for a man. (Polyandry, which involves one wife and multiple husbands, is rare.) That’s also what our sexually liberated society says. Has the serial “hookup” culture liberated women? Would legalized polygamy be any better?

As the U.S. Supreme Court underscored in a famous 1878 ruling, “(P)olygamy leads to the patriarchal principle, and which, when applied to large communities, fetters the people in stationary despotism, while that principle cannot long exist in connection with monogamy.”

In other words, polygamy was – and remains – wrong because it undermines the essential equality between one husband and one wife.

It somehow seems fitting that the federal judge in Utah ruled on a case brought by the patriarch of a reality TV show. Those nice people on TV seem to make it work, right? And if the effect is to further undermine an institution essential for maintaining a free society – well, that would make for a fine show, too.

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Ben Boychuk (bboychukcity-journal.org) is associate editor of the Manhattan Institute’s City Journal. Joel Mathis (joelmmathisgmail.com) is a contributing editor to Philadelphia Magazine.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: culturewars; homosexualagenda; lds; ldschurch; polygamy; utah
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To: OldNewYork

*then... to be grammatically consistent.


41 posted on 12/28/2013 9:51:38 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: Tennessee Nana
In the Bible God condemns those who commit the sins of polygamy…

Where exactly do we find that condemnation?

42 posted on 12/28/2013 9:54:00 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Paladin2
Its high time the authority of "Federal Judges" and their ability to dictate and nullify laws voted on and passed by the legislatures and citizens of the STATES be examined.

There's lots of work to do, to undo the tyranny of the "Federal Judiciary".

43 posted on 12/28/2013 10:00:10 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: old curmudgeon
Just gots to "keep the pimp hand strong".

I'm all for polygamy if that means some gals supporting me when I'm old and crotchety.

44 posted on 12/28/2013 10:26:49 PM PST by SIDENET
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To: Sacajaweau

ditto


45 posted on 12/28/2013 10:28:09 PM PST by genghis
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To: freedomfiter2
Once society accepted serial monogamy, it lost the moral high ground to stop everything else.

Actually, serial polygamy (i.e., having a succession of spouses - one at a time) is already accepted in every State of the Union.

I can't imagine what you mean by "serial monogamy."

Regards,

46 posted on 12/28/2013 10:55:02 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wouldn’t have it any other way!


47 posted on 12/29/2013 1:53:53 AM PST by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Venturer

>>>Polygamy is more Natural than Same Sex marriage.<<<

Bingo. I don’t give a flying hug about polygamy. Let them have it if they want. They are pedophiles who make me worry.


48 posted on 12/29/2013 2:24:01 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: RichInOC
Yeah, there’s still the eugenics thing about incestuous marriages. Do you really want to be the poor slob of an attorney making that argument in an American courtroom in 2014? No. No, you do not.

Particularly since any eugenics argument against allowing incestuous coupling would also apply against allowing long-term welfare recipients to breed.

49 posted on 12/29/2013 2:38:54 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Arrowhead1952; 2ndDivisionVet
Any man who decides to have more than one wife, is INSANE.

Any man who decides to have A wife is almost there, too!

50 posted on 12/29/2013 3:00:22 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why not? I will accept polygamy, gay “marriage”, and all other redefinitions of marriage beyond one man and one woman to exactly the same extent. Zero.


51 posted on 12/29/2013 4:33:04 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Progressives never stop...


52 posted on 12/29/2013 5:19:34 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They must then accept polygamy, then pediohilia...there is nothing stopping this trend.


53 posted on 12/29/2013 5:52:41 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it stood.)
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To: sickoflibs

Why not? You get more benefits from the government. It’s a more efficient use of resources.


54 posted on 12/29/2013 5:58:24 AM PST by heye2monn
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To: alexander_busek

Google the term “serial monogamy “ . It’s acceptance is why we’ll soon see marriages between a man and a colony of gerbils sanctioned by the government.


55 posted on 12/29/2013 4:44:29 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2

“Once society accepted serial monogamy, it lost the moral high ground to stop everything else.”


I must inform you.....the ‘death knell’ for America has already been rung.


56 posted on 12/30/2013 6:07:37 PM PST by ourworldawry
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To: ourworldawry

I believe you are correct now. We passed several forks in the road since America rejected one man and one woman for life as the accepted standard for marriage.


57 posted on 12/30/2013 8:29:33 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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