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Benefits Ending for One Million Unemployed
New York Times ^ | December 27, 2013 | ANNIE LOWREY

Posted on 12/28/2013 5:51:29 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: DoodleDawg

“Assisting those trying to find a new job is also the right thing to do.”

Giving someone money to stay in the same place with the same lack of opportunity is not “Assistance”.

Lowering the expectation of “free money” provides great assistance in trying to find a new job. Allowing freedom of mobility is great assistance. Allowing the insolvent to clear their debts and get a new start is assistance.


61 posted on 12/28/2013 6:32:08 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: reaganaut1
How many in the past magically found work just as the unemployment benefits were ending? 26 weeks is a lifeline, 99+ weeks is a way of life.
62 posted on 12/28/2013 6:32:37 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: reaganaut1
I don't think unemployment benefits should last longer than 6 months. If someone has not found a job in that time, they need to lower their sights and/or be willing to move to an area with more job openings.

The problem with lowering your sights is that employers know that you will jump ship as soon as you can. That has been my experience, having been laid off twice in the last five years. Right now, I'm working at 2/3 of my former pay, and I'm looking.

We'd be better off if unemployment was eliminated. Employers could plan on people working at a lower level of pay for about 6 months, which is probably the average period of employment for much of retail.

63 posted on 12/28/2013 6:32:46 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: DoodleDawg

I could be wrong, and of course some of them have their wives working.

Read my post 46.

Also What happens after this extension runs out? We extend it again?

How long before it becomes welfare? How long can a country exist printing money that has nothing behind it so we can pay people who do not work?

Why do we cut the pensions of the military, speak of cutting Social Security and send people home on furlough and get our panties in a wad if we cut entitlements?

Sure everyone is hurting. Obamacare will see to that for everyone.This administration has become a welfare state.
More Food Stamps than ever before and we are still allowing American car companies to build their plants in Mexico we are allowing Hersheys to move to Mexico, we are supplying Mexico with jobs in their country and bringing them into this country to do what few jobs are left here.

WTF is going on?

OBAM That’s whats going on.


64 posted on 12/28/2013 6:32:56 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Real:

Burger King Sign: “Now Hiring Must Be Mexican”
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/cosmo-latina/blog/burger-king-mexicans-only

‘Must be Mexican’ Burger King sign draws heat online
http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/burger-king-must-be-mexican-sign/nbrgR/


65 posted on 12/28/2013 6:34:19 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: DoodleDawg

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

Sounds like carte blanche to me.


66 posted on 12/28/2013 6:34:52 AM PST by impimp
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To: Red in Blue PA

“BUT WHY ISN’T THIS SAME REQUIREMENT DONE FOR THOSE ON WELFARE????????”

Welfare is a separate problem that needs to be dealt with separately.

You think because anyone gets free money from the government that everyone should?


67 posted on 12/28/2013 6:35:38 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Red in Blue PA
For some jobs, there have been several hundred applicants and more per opening.

In the old days, being called in for an interview meant that you were qualified, and they wanted to see what your personlality was like. You had a 50/50 shot.

That's changed. At least 10 people have been called in for interviews for every job that I've been interviewed for. You have to be an exact match for the job to be hired.

68 posted on 12/28/2013 6:35:44 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I look at Unemployment Checks as Air Vouchers from a soon to be bankrupt airline at their exclusive terminal.

The Airline is overbooking with limited flights (Lousy Economy) and hand you an air voucher for bumping you from the flight.....problem is that all the limited flights are overbooked (unemployment rate) -so they just keep handing out air vouchers (Unemployment checks) to the people sitting in the concourse waiting to get on a plane.

Some people will go home (quit looking for a job)
Some people will rent a car (go into business themselves)
Some people will take a bus (lower paying job)
Some people will get on another overbooked flight (get the same type of job they had)
Some people will just keep sitting at the concourse (welfare, SSDI)


69 posted on 12/28/2013 6:36:13 AM PST by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’ll acknowledge it, things ARE bad and unless you are in Texas it is difficult to find a job. I have had one job in 28 months. Wish I would have never left Texas in 2005! Now my resume is a mess and I am 55! Some folks just don’t understand how hard it really is...


70 posted on 12/28/2013 6:36:27 AM PST by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary & remove the son of a kenyan mooslimb)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Employees don't pay into Unemployment Insurance (UI), employers do*.

Just like employers pay half of SS.

Of course, they don't. The costs come off the top of salaries. It's factored into the cost of hiring an employee.

71 posted on 12/28/2013 6:38:04 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Venturer; Red in Blue PA

While a counselor at the state unemployment office, I had a job-seeker come in that I had found a relatively good job for earlier in the week. Surprised to see him, I asked what he was doing there and he said “I quit that job, the boss tried to tell me what to do all the time.”


72 posted on 12/28/2013 6:38:51 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: BillM

I don’t know about a majority, but certainly many are.

I cannot understand a lot of people. I talked to a guy and he said he would not work for under $100,000 dollars a year.

I watched as they Foreclosed on his house and he moved somewhere else , I know not where, haven’t seen him again.
Makes no sense to me. The people behind me have been living in that house for a year and a half now without making a payment, and they do not intend to make a payment. They said they will move when they are actually moved out, and they intend to buy another home in her name instead of his. They are saving their payment money for a down payment on the next home.
The world is nuts. It seems some young people do not have any idea about right and wrong.


73 posted on 12/28/2013 6:39:48 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: reaganaut1

74 posted on 12/28/2013 6:40:53 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Venturer
The people behind me have been living in that house for a year and a half now without making a payment, and they do not intend to make a payment. They said they will move when they are actually moved out, and they intend to buy another home in her name instead of his

I talked to a realtor who said he sees this every day. Apparently they cannot kick you out of your house for not making payments for something like 2 years and now that people know they are taking advantage of that.
75 posted on 12/28/2013 6:43:27 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA
But anyone who claims that most of the unemployed are playing the system have not a clue. I am currently looking and it ain’t easy out there. Not arguing for a handout, but rather that people simply acknowledge how bad it is.

Both arguments are true. The job market is terrible for anything skilled; but it's also true that for many people, the unemployment check is demotivating.

My rabidly liberal, worthless in so many ways BIL was over for Xmas. He's working now (reluctantly), but somehow squeezed what seemed like over a year of unemployment benefits. His equally liberal wife remarked to mine at some point, that although he was going thru the motions, he wasn't really looking all that hard because the unemployment had 3 or 4 months to go.

76 posted on 12/28/2013 6:43:29 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Red in Blue PA

“I am not sure I get your point. You advise people to move cross country for $14/hour jobs?”

If that is the work available, yes, I would say that.


77 posted on 12/28/2013 6:47:36 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: DonaldC

-—If that is the work available, yes, I would say that.

It has been that way many times before,
and under much more arduous conditions


78 posted on 12/28/2013 6:50:54 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: kearnyirish2

If this is true

“Here in NJ those jobs aren’t offered to Americans; they are becoming the exclusive domain of “replacement Americans”. Legitimate companies use legal immigrants; others use illegals.”

Than the voting public needs to increase and make better choices. In N.J. the TAX rate is way too high, UNIONS prevent job creation and jet YOU all vote for LIBERAL COMMIES.


79 posted on 12/28/2013 7:00:00 AM PST by DanZ
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To: Red in Blue PA

I was in that situation back in the 80’s. It was worse than today. There were NO jobs. Therefore you made your own. Been self employed since. Learned to survive the ups and downs by being practical and doing whatever it took.
“Find a need and fill it!” There may not be ‘jobs’ available, but there is WORK to be done. Unless people start moving (as in take action) there will never be any improvement.
My experience this time is that people want a job but they don’t want to work.


80 posted on 12/28/2013 7:02:19 AM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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