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You Knew it was Coming: “Experts” Say Pedophilia is a Sexual Orientation – Hard-wired at Birth
Freedom Outpost ^ | December 27, 2013 | Tim Brown

Posted on 12/28/2013 3:47:29 AM PST by IbJensen

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To: IbJensen

The way to confront such pseudo-science is to hit it head on with an extreme response.

“Since they have ‘shown’ that pedophilism is hard-wired at birth, and pedophilism is so destructive to society, the obvious response is that when someone is determined to be a pedophile by a court of law, they should be ‘euthanized’.”

You can bet if these scoundrels heard *that* reasoning, they would shut up real quick.


81 posted on 12/28/2013 7:23:47 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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To: AlexW
Legally?

The victim needs to be under 18 with more then a 3 year difference in their ages is the strictest standard I am aware of.

Now if we are talking dictionary the victim needs to be prepubescent and the perpetrator post pubescent.

82 posted on 12/28/2013 7:47:37 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: IbJensen
Once it is accepted that behavior is caused by genetics, then society is forced to accept an excuse for all forms of evil behavior.

Exactly.

Boortz gave us the false choice and false conclusion the other day on Hannity when he said that gays must be born gay because there is no way that one would choose to be gay, similar to the way a grownup level headed person would choose an item off a menu at a restaurant.

Never mind that sexual deviation (or any behavioral deviation) may be a behavior developed at a young age due to psychological problems.

83 posted on 12/28/2013 7:50:27 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: AlexW
At what age is sex between an older male and younger female considered to be pedophilia?

My understanding is that pedophilia is sex with a prepubescent child.

Since puberty can vary by age, I'm not sure how it is defined in law.

84 posted on 12/28/2013 8:05:37 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: IbJensen

Researchers = Lobbyist’s


85 posted on 12/28/2013 8:20:10 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Since puberty can vary by age, I’m not sure how it is defined in law. “

Age of consent generally


86 posted on 12/28/2013 8:27:07 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Well said. Hard for some to quantify the soul.

It causes the hair to raise and tears to form when I contemplate. It is still me after the physical part has departed or died.


87 posted on 12/28/2013 9:00:20 AM PST by wita
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Pedophiles are just homosexual men and lesbian women.

There are facts and figures the homosexual lobby would like buried as deep as the victims. In this particular example statistics prove that the majority of serial killings are committed by homosexuals and, to a lesser degree, by lesbians.

I believe that as a youth experiments with another buddy the two see how easy it is to experience orgasm with a same-sex partner. There’s no grooming, preening or snappy conversation required if one were attempting to make points with a member of the opposite sex.

As they mature they flit from one homo relationship to another, picking up serious attacks on their immune system. When one examines the homosexual ritual it is discovered that the gestation of fecal matter is involved. Now that, in itself, should be enough to put the fear of God into even the most ‘hardened’ homosexual.

But no they brainlessly drift from one relationship to another and, for the sake of variety, experiment with different ways of sating their evil desires. There’s even the case of a Washington State homosexual club where members were allowed to pair off with animals. The action got wide press coverage when one decided he wanted to be mounted by a stallion. He, of course, died.

As the years flit by the old queens want younger meat. After all, what wrinkled old queer wants to screw around with another old queer?

I say, unequivocally, that practitioners of homosexual and lesbian relations are anathema to any nation that strives for decency. Instead of being pedestalized they need to be shamed and shunned!

What else then can one expect from a nation that has tossed decency as well as God out the window and marches on filling up dumpsters with dead babies?


88 posted on 12/28/2013 9:14:52 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I for one don’t care to warehouse for a lifetime (at enormous cost) a pedophile, rapist or a murderer who has premeditated.

Our lousy Supreme Court has upheld the murder of innocent babies but continues to coddle those who belong in Boot Hill.

A case this week was especially horrific and was reported that a ‘man’ had raped his neighbor’s female dog.


89 posted on 12/28/2013 9:19:53 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

“that pedophilia is a deep-rooted, unchangeable predisposition”

IF society is to accept that position, those professionals who made and who take that position may not be doing pedophiles any favors, as a society who accepts that position could then accept that they have no choice with a convicted pedophile than to insure they remain incarcerated for life.

As to the statement that the researchers noted some differences in the “wiring” in the brains of some pedophiles, it ignores that the brain is very plastic - the wiring (the excersize of various neural pathways) is moldable IN RESPONSE to what we ask it to do, and the brains physical structure can reflect, over time, small differences that reflect what excersize we have given it.

Did they examine the brains of the pedophile at birth, and re-examine them 30 years later? No. Then noticing some “difference” late in life, in the brains of a pedophile says NOTHING about what the brain was capable of showing AT BIRTH. The difference they see can just as well be explained as a difference RESULTING from their long years pedophilia (you keep excersizing somethint a certain way, over and over again, and you will leave an impression on the material you have been excersizing reflecting the excerzing you have given it.

The level of brain activity in various parts of the brain is often NOT the result of the genetic structure of how a physical brain is built, but how it is used over time, again and again. Leave certain mental tasks out of the general mental effort and “the wiring” to perform those taks will atrophy as well. Repeat certain mental tasks with regularity in the general mental effort and the wiring to perform those tasks will improve.

Are there genetic limits to that in each of us? yes; but the general rule applies. The brain is plastic and half of early learning is “teaching” the brain to accomplish a task; and when we do, the brain then improves the synaptic pathways for doing that task again, and the task becomes easier and we get better at it. The brain is genetically full of “potential” but it requires education and experience for any “full” potential (different for each of us) to be realized.

Why should early developmental experiences and the constant repitition of pedophilia thoughts and actions NOT form the basis of seeing some “different” “wiring” in a pedophile’s brain by the time they are an adult? They should. What the researchers observed in a pedophile’s brain activity is likely the result of life-long pedophilia, not the cause.


90 posted on 12/28/2013 9:39:18 AM PST by Wuli
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To: driftdiver; AlexW
Age of consent generally

My thinking too....but laws vary from State to State and even after puberty the child may still fall under the consent age.

I thought AlexW was looking for laws defining pedophilia determined by age specifically??

91 posted on 12/28/2013 9:59:32 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Biggirl
if some men are born pedophiles, what should society do with them?

We can

1) decide pedophilia is OK, or we can
2) isolate them from children, or we can
3) figure out how to re-wire them.

#2 by whatever means seems the most prudent course at this point.

(Are there no female pedophiles?)

92 posted on 12/28/2013 10:12:35 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: IbJensen

That is not entirely true, as there are plenty of heterosexual pedophiles as well, both male and female.

And an additional problem is the legally arbitrary age of consent. All U.S. states set their limits between 16 and 18. With the younger age, minors often must have parental permission to get married. But there are a patchwork of laws to deal with sexual activity and consent.

A key to determining is someone is a pedophile, is not if they are attracted to someone under the legal age, but importantly, if they are *not* attracted to those *over* that legal age. This is the “too old” standard.

While the law does not distinguish between the two, the psychology is very different. Lots of men were turned on by the 16 and 17 year old porn star Traci Lords, who looked to be an adult, and she had a fake ID so everyone thought she was an adult. But had she looked younger than legal age, while many would still have looked, they would have never dared to do anything about it.

Conversely, in recent years, an adult porn star from South America named Little Lupe, looked so underage that a man in NYC was arrested for child pornography, for looking at one of her videos. She had to fly to NYC with documentary evidence that she was an adult, out of fear of losing her most profitable market. And even after proving that she was an adult, the prosecution still wanted to prosecute him, saying that she looked so underage that his *intent* was to look at child porn. Though her site include age disclaimers.


93 posted on 12/28/2013 10:51:48 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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To: wita

Certainly it is greatly associated with the part of us that experiences transcendent emotions. Why would we cry over things that cause little or no physical pain? Why would our “hair raise” with fright in situations of little actual physical danger?

We comprise a package bigger than many of us are ready to give credit for. To make more sense of divine salvation we need to know more about what was saved and out of what kind of state to what kind of state and what kind of agent is responsible. We who think we are so normal have badly fragmented minds, and forget that there is far more to our lives than “humdrum existence.” It’s only when God begins to knit our immaterial selves back together that we can begin to appreciate the fullness of what we have missed.

Anyhow the whole world needs God badly, not just those we know as the worst sinners. The worst sinners may ironically be in the most advantageous place, because they have a problem that can’t be ignored. John Q. Normal may be in a worse long term peril.


94 posted on 12/28/2013 12:10:46 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; AlexW

I don’t believe pedophilia is a legal term. Its a clinical term and also a general usage term which means an adult who finds children sexually attractive.

Its one of those things we know when we see it but have trouble defining it. Partially because its based on cultural norms. In America during the 1700-1800s it was fairly common for a 13, 14, or 15 yr old girl to get married to an older man. In the old days people who abused children tended to get hung or shot fairly quickly. Today it is highly unusual for marriage but the predator behavior is unfortunately becoming more common.


95 posted on 12/28/2013 4:12:38 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Americans are dug into Ostrich holes. I blame every fellow Christian Voter
out there for allowing this to happen to our society!

All this started when the Faggots wanted to be left alone. But nobody was listening to
what that actually meant. They wanted to be left alone to PERVERT our society so they
could act out sexual perversions in public on onto our Children,
and "left alone to do it" with impunity.


This never was about equal rights, this has ALWAYS been about Child Molestation and
granting themselves special protections to gain access to our Children!

Homosexual is a mental disorder that cannot be fixed, they can only be killed by the Death Penalty!
And every one of them WILL go to hell where they deserve. Hear that Preachers? HELL!

96 posted on 12/28/2013 4:15:02 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: driftdiver

I think you’re right on the money, well said.

Thank you for taking the time to post it!


97 posted on 12/28/2013 5:07:14 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: driftdiver

Hanged in the public square...now THAT was a solution.


98 posted on 12/28/2013 5:18:33 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back! (Thanks, Phil Robertson.))
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To: IbJensen
This guy, Ethan Edwards, sounds like a latter day Humbert Humbert: “It was love at first sight, at last sight, at ever and ever sight.” ― Vladimir Nabokov, Lolita
99 posted on 12/28/2013 5:26:15 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back! (Thanks, Phil Robertson.))
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To: miserare

If someone did that to my child they’d be lucky to be hanged.


100 posted on 12/28/2013 5:36:15 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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