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To: OldNewYork

I can’t tell if he’s a LYING GOVERNMENT AGENT - or - if he is a DUPE. Take your pick, because it doesn’t make any difference to me — since the ‘result’ is the same, which is the advancement of a LYING GOVERNMENT NARRATIVE.


231 posted on 12/31/2013 9:45:34 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Alright, so then we’ve established that you think Pollard’s boss at Naval Intelligence, site of Pollard’s admitted crimes, is lying. And you’re saying you won’t definitely ascribe culpability to Pollard’s boss at Naval Intelligence, but that you think he is definitely lying, for whatever reason, and that Pollard and his supporters are more reliable.

Now, I posted this statement by them before to you, but you chose not to respond to it. What here is a lie? All of it, or just part of it?

Here’s the statement Pollard’s former boss released along with three other men who had held the same position as director of Naval Intelligence:

” We... feel obligated to go on record with the facts regarding Pollard in order to dispel the myths that have arisen from this clever public relations campaign... aimed at transforming Pollard from greedy, arrogant betrayer of the American national trust into Pollard, committed Israeli patriot.”

” Pollard pleaded guilty and therefore never was publicly tried. Thus, the American people never came to know that he offered classified information to three other countries before working for the Israelis and that he offered his services to a fourth country while he was spying for Israel. They also never came to understand that he was being highly paid for his services....”

Do you believe they are lying when they say Pollard pled guilty to offering classified information to other countries than Israel, or that he sought money for this information from those countries, and from Israel?

” Pollard and his apologists argue he turned over to the Israelis information they were being denied that was critical to their security. The fact is, however, Pollard had no way of knowing what the Israeli government was already receiving by way of official intelligence exchange agreements.... Some of the data he compromised had nothing to do with Israeli security or even with the Middle East. He betrayed worldwide intelligence data, including sources and methods developed at significant cost to the U.S. taxpayer. As a result of his perfidy, some of those sources are lost forever”

Are you saying these men are lying and that, contrary to the above statement, the information he sold was strictly limited to Israeli security and the Middle East?

” ... Another claim Pollard made is that the U.S. government reneged on its bargain not to seek the life sentence. What is not heard is that Pollard’s part of the bargain was to cooperate fully in an assessment of the damage he had done and to refrain from talking to the press prior to the completion of his sentencing. He blatantly and contemptuously failed to live up to either part of the plea agreement.... It was this coupled with the magnitude and consequences of his criminal actions that resulted in the judge imposing a life sentence.... The appellate court subsequently upheld the life sentence.”

Are you saying these men are lying about Pollard’s violation of his plea agreement?

” If, as Pollard and his supporters claim, he has “suffered enough” for his crimes, he is free to apply for parole as the American judicial system provides. In his arrogance, he has refused to do so, but insists on being granted clemency or a pardon.”

Are you saying these men are lying about Pollard being free to apply for parole?

Please point out the specific lies in their joint statement.


235 posted on 12/31/2013 10:15:14 PM PST by OldNewYork
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