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If it happens, it will be no thanks to the “architect” and his lefty-collaborating GOP-e.
1 posted on 12/25/2013 11:28:05 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

With Carl’s choices for new Senators, it won’t be any different than it is now.


2 posted on 12/25/2013 11:31:57 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Olog-hai

Why does anyone still pay attention to this over-hyped airbag?


3 posted on 12/25/2013 11:33:34 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: Olog-hai

If HE has anything to do with it, it won’t happen at all. He will TRY to see to it that nary a Conservative is allowed to run. Should WE persevere, we will be defeating rove as well as his dem-light cronies.


4 posted on 12/25/2013 11:35:07 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Olog-hai

Cool, then McConnell and Ryan can work together to cut Military pensions even more!/

(while sending more than the amount “saved” to the Egypt, Pakistan, Libya, etc etc,,,,)

I have no confidence that a republican win in 2014 will change the direction we are headed in anyway whatsoever.


7 posted on 12/25/2013 11:48:32 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Olog-hai

I’ll believe it when I see it.

I do not trust Rove and what he has to say.


9 posted on 12/26/2013 12:05:50 AM PST by rawhide
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To: Olog-hai

Now I am worried!


10 posted on 12/26/2013 12:08:32 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Olog-hai

Further: if they do it will probably be due to his nemesis tea party / conservative population.


13 posted on 12/26/2013 12:25:40 AM PST by Republican1795.
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BUT be advised... The GOPe does NOT want 60+ members of republicans in the Senate to override a Zero Obama veto..

It is always Kibuki Theatre.. in D.C.
Trying to stem OFF the tide of a total route of democrats..
Even IF that means the democrat media will ensure that this happens..


14 posted on 12/26/2013 12:27:49 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Olog-hai

"..nom nom nom nom....no thanks to you mouse brain"

19 posted on 12/26/2013 2:47:15 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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and we all should believe and trust this maggot Rove cause he supports only go along get along everyone makes money republicans?
This rove guy is garbage.


20 posted on 12/26/2013 2:48:40 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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Shut up, Poppin’ Fresh...you are nothing more than a Rockerfeller Republican money whore...the Wasserman-Schultz of the GOPe...probably a closeted homosexual, to boot.


21 posted on 12/26/2013 2:55:39 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Olog-hai
Posted a short time ago on a companion thread:

Newt Gingrich contemplated the landscape and dreamed of doing "the impossible." Karl Rove considers the demographics, counts up the odds, and takes counsel of his fears.

To play with a metaphor: almost alone among military and civilians in 1861, Robert E Lee believed that the war would be prolonged and difficult. The rest of his countrymen wearing both gray and blue, generally believed that a short war would be quickly won. At the outbreak of the war and for the next year Robert E. Lee was generally regarded to be a commander noted for his prudence rather than for his daring. However, even before Lee got command he recognized that the strategic landscape had to be redrawn if the Confederacy were to survive much less prevail and so he unleashed Stonewall Jackson to wage his magnificent Valley campaign of 1862 which entirely changed the dynamics on the ground in Virginia in 1862.

When Lee took command of the Army of Northern Virginia he and Jackson understood that the South must inevitably lose a war of attrition. He also understood along with Jackson that the battlefield extended beyond the presence of the enemy to the civilians who sustained the enemy and so Lee dared once again to overcome an intimidating strategic landscape. To overcome great odds, to undermine civilian morale in the North, to gain life supporting recognition from other nations abroad, Lee invaded the North and very nearly succeeded in those goals.

Next year, motivated by the same considerations and understanding that to take risks with his army was perilous, Lee also knew that the strategy of avoiding mistakes was one which made defeat ultimately unavoidable so he invaded the North again in 1863. As in 1862, Lee came close to succeeding in 1863. In the next year, 1864, on battlefield after battlefield Lee demonstrated his daring and resourcefulness in the face of daunting numbers.

By Appomattox in April 1865, no one could doubt that the Confederacy, at least in the theater in the East under the command of Robert E Lee, had done everything that could be expected of mortal men to do on behalf of their cause. Lee was not entirely perfect, notably on the last day of Gettysburg at Pickett's Charge his tactical genius eluded him but no one can deny that Robert E Lee, more than any man contending under his handicaps, did all that could be expected of him.

Time after time Lee risked his personal reputation and his army because he had integrity enough to risk his own name on behalf of of a greater cause. Four years after the war began, no one would say that Robert E Lee lacked daring or that he lacked strategic vision.

What can we say of Karl Rove? Is he daring? No. Are the demographic odds against Republicans overwhelming and must inevitably spell our defeat? Yes. Has Karl Rove conceived of a single strategy which would change the landscape, change the rules of the game, indeed, change the game itself and give Republicans a chance to save their country? No, no and no again.

Every cycle Karl Rove advances a policy of minimal risk, daring little, changing nothing. Every year our relative demographic vis-à-vis the Democrats deteriorates. What is Karl Rove's answer? To abandon one state after another to the enemy. Does he attempt to invade Yankee states and catch up the civilian population in his cause? No, because he has no cause that stirs the hearts of men, North or South, East or West.

Ludendorff once remarked of the inept Austrian army, "we are shackled to a corpse." And so the conservative movement in America is shackled to the Republican Party and the Republican Party is dying at the hands of people like Karl Rove. We have seen what imagination and originality can do against daunting odds. Newt Gingrich once showed us the way. Today, Ted Cruz Mike Lee, Rand Paul point to a new and daring strategy.

In politics as in war one is either on defense or on offense and defense is no way to win wars or elections. Karl Rove is essentially a trimmer who calls himself an architect but is really a bean counter. An architect builds but Karl Rove sets out only to cut losses and succeeds too often only in generating losses. Karl Rove protects his reputation, fills his purse, and presides over the dying spasms of a national political party.

Everyone on this thread is aware that Karl Rove is a Rino but he is also a moral coward and a man of extremely limited strategic vision. Stonewall Jackson is the man, I believe, who actually coined the phrase, "never take counsel of your fears" but Karl Rove's ears hear no other message.


22 posted on 12/26/2013 3:05:29 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Rove’s still into predictions? Even after Roger Ailes stomped all over him for predicting Romney would win——and Rover’s American Crossroads PAC almost went belly-up when donors demanded to know what happened to the $300 million he got to elect Romney.

Same w/ Dick Morris-—who now has crawled back into Fox’s good graces——introed as a “former Clinton advisor.”

Morris says 2014 will be a total Dem wipeout, that Republicans will gain enormously.

Morris predicted back in Nov that if Obama rescinds the cancellation avalanche, then nobody’s gonna sign up and then its Plan B-—generate enrollments by forcing people off their plans w/ no choice but to come into the exchanges.

Morris doesn’t know?——to date, Obama has made 14 major unilateral changes to O/Crap-—and its still a flop.

Dems must love it when these creepy guys predict Repub wins.


23 posted on 12/26/2013 3:14:35 AM PST by Liz
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To: Olog-hai

The GOP will still spend like drunken sailors. FU KR.


24 posted on 12/26/2013 3:15:06 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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What kind of GOP?


25 posted on 12/26/2013 3:15:14 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Carl Rove is just a cherubic blow hard who busily runs the Republicrat Party into the ground.

The difference between these two parties is that each tells different sets of lies in order to grasp power.

Get on the stick, Tea Party (and Oath Keepers) to make a true difference in America by seizing power from these two totally bankrupt political power parties. Send their leaders off to historical obscurity.


26 posted on 12/26/2013 3:33:46 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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Even if Rove is correct, a RINO will switch party affiliation and keep the Marxist’s in charge of the senate. Tyrants play hardball.


27 posted on 12/26/2013 4:00:48 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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The GOP is not winning the Senate and they’ll probably lose the House. Why do I feel that way? Because the idiots are going to pass amnesty in 2014 and blow any chance they have of recapturing both branches of government.


30 posted on 12/26/2013 4:23:25 AM PST by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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Tokyo Rove, his white board and his band of rinos can kiss my dago ass {Happy New Year}.


31 posted on 12/26/2013 4:35:33 AM PST by USS Alaska (If I could...I would.)
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OH JUST SHUT UP KARL!

JUST SHUT UP!


32 posted on 12/26/2013 4:36:50 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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