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To: Pontiac
Anthropomorphic Global Warming science fraud was brought to us by government funded science.

No. AGW is a result of politicians (of a specific ideological persuasion) seeing the environment as a vehicle to impose their idea of a socialist utopia, when all other methods of trying to impose socialism have failed. For the most part, politicians fund the science that scientists tell them needs funding. In the case of AGW, politicians are more likely to direct funding towards any "global warming" research, so scientists respond by saying everything they do is related to AGW. Don't be fooled by that. Many published studies include the words "because of global warming", but have nothing whatsoever to do with AGW research.

51 posted on 12/25/2013 7:42:09 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom
In the case of AGW, politicians are more likely to direct funding towards any "global warming" research, so scientists respond by saying everything they do is related to AGW. Don't be fooled by that. Many published studies include the words "because of global warming", but have nothing whatsoever to do with AGW research.

Even if the scientist doing the research doesn’t believe in AGW this kind of taint on just the writing of a grant application harms the body politic. Once the grant is approved the scientist will have if nothing else perceived pressure to write his findings to support the AGW theory. Some simple blurb in the research paper saying his findings may support AGW theory is glommed on to by the press or activist and amplified 100 fold to support their cause.

No. AGW is a result of politicians (of a specific ideological persuasion) seeing the environment as a vehicle to impose their idea of a socialist utopia, when all other methods of trying to impose socialism have failed. For the most part, politicians fund the science that scientists tell them needs funding.

And the scientists that are on the committees that approve grants are political appointees. The scientist that tell the politicians what science needs to be funded are political animals. If you don’t take politics out of science you will have politicized science.

Adolf Hitler decided that science produced by Jews was politically incorrect and their science was discarded in Germany and those Jewish scientists lost their positions. Similar pressure is brought to pressure on AGW “deniers”.

I doubt that politics can be completely removed from science but removing the power of the purse from politicians would be of great benefit in my humble opinion.

57 posted on 12/25/2013 8:13:47 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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