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To: Zman

Just a few observations.
My understanding of the DOMA case was that the provision that gave states protection from having to recognize gay “marriages” from out of state was not challenged or considered.
So that part of DOMA remains intact.
That explains why thus judge went the 14th Amendment rout. That’s a tough position on appeal however.
The premise of his ruling is that gay marriage is a fundamental right, and cannot be summarily taken away by another state.
Number one, it is not established law that gay marriage is a fundamental right.
Number two, he addresses this fundamental right issue without the need to do so under a 14th Amendment analysis.
If the law has historically allowed all married couples, including married cousins (who are not allowed to marry under Ohio law) from other states to be mentioned as husband and wife on death certificates, then the unequal treatment treatment is the best argument for an equal protection violation.
But he misses the point entirely. The state of Ohio has treated all out of state heterosexual marriages the same pursuant to state law.
It is well within the realm of state authority to decide which out of state marriages not otherwise permitted under Ohio law, may be recognized. There are ample legitimate basis for such a determination that gay “marriage” has no historical legitimacy in this country, and that the fundamental nature of same sex unions is so far off the mark that is doesn’t deserve the same treatment.
Reasonable people cam disagree about marriage to first or second cousins, and there is plenty of historical support for such marriages. The beginning of civilization with Adam and Eve was followed up by marriage between siblings, cousins, etc. it was necessary, and God did not call it an abomination.
The same Old Testamemt did however state the wickedness of homosexuality.
So my point is that Ohio has a legitimate basis for its position here, and frankly I think the 10th Amendment carried the day in favor of Ohio.


36 posted on 12/23/2013 11:10:45 PM PST by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Clump

Yup at the very least, the 10th comes into play and the fact that there is no long term historical basis for recognizing gay marriage.

However, I have had arguments with those who cite the 9th as some justification for its legality, just as the Court found for federal abortion rights using the 9th.

There are many cross currents here and I am actually surprised it took this long to come to the fore.


53 posted on 12/24/2013 9:40:17 AM PST by Zman (Liberals: denying reality since Day One.)
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