Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: no-to-illegals
You are wrong on one count. This entire debacle has been about signing up more people for Medicaid, yes...even those that would have normally been considered somewhat middle class.

It is for the purpose of asset forfeiture; they want the real estate and assets of the middle class. They will continue to escalate the costs of both health care AND insurance until NO ONE can afford it. Then, we will magically all find ourselves on Medicaid (not some new single-payer plan) with increased taxes, terrible healthcare, and without the laws about asset forfeiture having been changed.

I also expect them to sneak something in to an upcoming law making medical bills "unbankruptable"...so that even if you have one of the new plans with huge deductibles your assets will be taken when you find yourself with a $30,000 hospital bill and no way to pay it.

They have been doing this for years with the elderly who are in nursing homes. They spend down the assets to pay for the care, then go on Medicaid; then when the person passes away the remaining assets are used to pay "back" the bills. WHICH IS FINE...everyone knows this, and the nursing homes/social services make it very clear.

This is a whole other thing entirely. Forty and fifty year old people, who are being shuttled into the Medicaid program have no idea that their assets are subject to this. But, you can bet it was PLANNED to be that way.

They cannot have the "peasants" having assets; it is a very good way to confiscate guns, ag land, and other "troublesome" things that might get in the way of their bizarre communist plan.

The good news is, that the American people seem to have finally woken up to the fact that something nefarious is going on (although they don't think much past the fact that their insurance has changed). I wouldn't expect much out of most of the Republicans; Paul Ryan's Medicare reform scheme from a few years back was nothing more than a trial balloon for the same type of thing, albeit on a lesser scale. I knew right then that he was either a useful idiot or an enemy...as it turns out, he is both.

13 posted on 12/22/2013 2:59:42 AM PST by garandgal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]


To: garandgal
Agree with your comments.

Allow me to add that the Medicaid and VA systems (unlike Medicare) are single payer schemes. At least with Medicaid, one can see a doctor of one's choosing, if the doctor will in fact take Medicaid patients. With the VA system, the doctors are employees of the VA and the facilities are owned by the VA.

A person in one of these programs is not able to purchase supplemental insurance or pay out-of-pocket for a better grade of care.

14 posted on 12/22/2013 3:12:16 AM PST by oblomov
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies ]

To: garandgal

I agree with you that Medicaid is being pushed for asset forfeiture on upper middle class families. I expect single payer to include similar rules for asset forfeiture but I look for the rules to be broader than current Medicaid rules regarding asset forfeiture. Yes, Virginia, they are coming for Santa Claus.


15 posted on 12/22/2013 3:17:46 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies ]

To: garandgal

I remember when the rules were three years on assets under Medicaid, then the rules were changed to five years. Have not heard what they are under zer0care but one has to know there are similar or worse rules within that law. Only stands to reason knowing the rats.


16 posted on 12/22/2013 3:20:02 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies ]

To: garandgal
I did not make myself clear in my last post. My apology.

To protect assets under Medicaid one had to do such three years prior to Medicaid picking up expenses. That has been changed to five years currently. Have not found what the zer0care law says in regard to further changes in asset protection but since the health and human service secretary can make many of the decisions; this is maybe a decision the health and human service secretary will be making.

17 posted on 12/22/2013 3:29:50 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies ]

To: garandgal

They cannot have the “peasants” having assets; it is a very good way to confiscate guns, ag land, and other “troublesome” things that might get in the way of their bizarre communist plan.

I don’t know if the gov’t wants to create a lot of savagely angry people who have nothing left to lose...


19 posted on 12/22/2013 5:10:20 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies ]

To: garandgal
I also expect them to sneak something in to an upcoming law making medical bills "unbankruptable"...so that even if you have one of the new plans with huge deductibles your assets will be taken when you find yourself with a $30,000 hospital bill and no way to pay it.

They will just do what people do with student loans. Pay them with credit cards and then go bankrupt.

28 posted on 12/22/2013 8:01:31 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson