Posted on 12/21/2013 10:33:51 AM PST by Steelfish
Ugandan MPs Rush Through Draconian Laws Against Homosexuality Same-sex couples face life behind bars for touching amid jail threat for not reporting gay people to authorities
David Smith, 20 December 2013
Gay rights activists have reacted angrily to the Ugandan parliament's abrupt decision to pass anti-homosexuality laws that would condemn same-sex couples to life in jail for mere touching, urging president Yoweri Museveni to veto them.
The bill, rushed through by MPs on Friday, also bans the promotion of homosexuality and makes it a crime punishable by prison not to report gay people to the authorities or to conduct a marriage ceremony for same-sex couples. The law was first introduced in 2009, when it advocated the death penalty, but after a worldwide outcry, that was removed from the final version.
"This is victory for Uganda," David Bahati, the MP who proposed the bill, was quoted as saying in media reports. "I am glad the parliament has voted against evil. Because we are a God-fearing nation, we value life in a holistic way. It is because of those values that members of parliament passed this bill regardless of what the outside world thinks."
The bill was reportedly tabled without prior notice. It was opposed by Ugandan prime minister Amama Mbabazi, who argued that not enough MPs were present for a quorum, a challenge that might yet discourage Museveni from signing the bill into law. The threat of a withdrawal of western aid could also play into his decision.
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Funny how there was zero outcry when Sweden allowed a convicted pedophile to adopt a child. Priorities much for these hypocrites?
This is overreaction.
The problem remains a weak gospel that has forgotten how to patiently teach the truths the perverts need to hear to receive the power from God by which they may buck off the monkeys on their backs. They don’t need an inquisition; that will only drive ministry attempts underground, the profoundly wrong thing to do.
It’s another extreme to which self righteousness about the matter can go (the other extreme being to normalize the sin). Their God is apparently not personal, sad to say. He is a convenient icon for their prides.
This fits the definition of "draconian," which means "having very severe penalties for infractions."
Jail time for not turning in homosexuals to the State is draconian, too.
If a person wants to argue that these laws are righteous or necessary, he may, but that doesn't make them not draconian.
Where’s the “incindiary”, “inflammatory” and “bashing” words?
The Gospel has always been the same. The problem is not with the Gospel but with the vast number of Christians that are afraid to speak it and are “loving” the perverts straight to hell.
Life in prison for knowingly spreading AIDS, child molesting, and exploiting the mentally challenged. Gee, we now know what hysteric liberals stand for.
Expressions of the gospel have varied and that is what I am speaking of. You do not impress me or God with your word games.
A gospel expression that does not contain the divine Yes that fills a person with the positive power that will reject, among other things, homosexual liaisons, is a beggared gospel expression.
They have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it.
Might not be any of our business, but just wait for a wave of Ugandan homosexuals seeking asylum in the US for fear of being persecuted. Coming soon to a city near you.
I wonder if other countries are reacting to the progay laws in the US and Europe.
In any case, are we not supposed to accept and foreign cultures? Especially African culture.
And let me warn you even further. Heterosexual society expurgated that from their gospel expression long ago when it chose to accept adultery in ANY form. You yourself might be such a hypocrite though I certainly pray that either you aren’t, or upon becoming aware you cease from it and therefore become part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
An expurgated gospel — one that does not give God credit in advance for the power to cure ANY unrighteousness — is Satan’s. Not God’s.
So don’t so quickly pride yourself and the rest of Christendom that you have the full gospel. You might not.
Draco (circa 7th century BC) was the first legislator of Athens in Ancient Greece. He replaced the prevailing system of oral law and blood feud by a written code to be enforced only by a court.
Importantly, though severe, the laws were appreciated because of their impartiality. And though no written record remains of them, it is generally believed that homosexuality was not unlawful, though socially discouraged.
It should also be noted that the strong laws of Draco were *more* popular than their replacement, the laws of Solon, which were considerably more “liberal”, and created “on behalf of the poor”, by the wealthy and powerful. And were not as impartial, favoring the wealthy.
With the backlash from Duck Dynasty I don't thinks gays are rushing to the U.S. anymore.
I would argue its none of anyone’s business what Uganda does. This was not decided by a judge or a dictator, it was decided by an elected parliament.
Around the world, there are a wide variety of laws governing what people are allowed to do with their leisure time. Brunei for instance has a prohibition against alcohol, while we in America enjoy the right to drink as we wish. In Singapore, you can be executed for bringing narcotics into the country, but in Portugal it’s not an issue.
Uganda is adopting laws that are not a mile away from laws that exist in a large amount of countries around the world, now including India.
Personally, I prefer the Russian approach that preserves libertarian freedom to do as you wish consensually in the bedroom, but bans promotion of unnatural and harmful practices to children. However Uganda as an independent country have a right to choose their own laws as long as they do not violate the very basic God-given rights we all share as human beings. I don’t see how this law could be interpreted as doing that.
I recommend everyone read the frothing at the mouth going on in the Guardian comment section. Talk of ‘banning religion’, and forcing Uganda to conform to England’s substandards of sexual morality. And get this, they denounce moral relativism! Their key export as leftists!
Just proves the left are hypocrites. They denounce colonialism as evil, but then become colonialists themselves.
Yes, these laws would of course be draconian to any sane person with a reasonable understanding of the meaning of the word draconian.
As observed in my post #4 and dead’s #18, that’s all very well, but the law is still “draconian” by definition.
There’s a reason this only appears in a British publication... It puts the lie to the lefts meme that conservatives are gay-bashing bigots. In fact we are more tolerant here than most places on Earth.
Wanna talk religion and homosexuality? Start here
In most of the Islamic world homosexuality is not socially accepted, as opinion polls demonstrate (see below). In nine Muslim countries, Afghanistan, Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, the UAE, and Yemen, homosexual activity carries the death penalty.[1][2][3][4]
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