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The public still blames Bush. And it celebrates the Clintons.
WaPo ^

Posted on 12/19/2013 9:26:32 AM PST by chessplayer

Nearly five years after George W. Bush left office, half the public still blames the former president for the nation’s economic woes, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll released this week.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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To: JPG

Funny carton!


21 posted on 12/19/2013 9:44:28 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yes, I know I said carton.


22 posted on 12/19/2013 9:45:02 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: chessplayer

50% blame Bush

50% blame Obama

Both sides are at fault.

We need a “Third Way”.

We need Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!

This is nothing more than a Hillary for president commercial.


23 posted on 12/19/2013 9:47:03 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: chessplayer

Was it half or was it actually 47%?


24 posted on 12/19/2013 9:47:22 AM PST by toast
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To: PieterCasparzen

Sadly, that conspiracy theory is looking more and more credible, especially when the tweedle-dum and tweedle-dumber choices in each election since 1984 are considered. Every election from 1988 on has only offered bad and worse options of internationalist, big-government statists. Since 1984, Team Red has offered Bush I, Dole, Bush II, McCain, and Romney. Team Blue was only marginally worse with Dukakis, Clintoon, Gore, Kerry, and Obama. I’m not sure we wouldn’t all be better off if Dukakis had won in 1988. As bad as Obama is, I’m glad McCain lost.


25 posted on 12/19/2013 9:47:49 AM PST by Skepolitic
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To: Biggirl

I think there’s a 50/50 chance of that happening.

In Politics, eleven Months is a long, long, time. The Media will be in crisis mode making sure the typical Low / No Information Voter will be shielded from the Truth.


26 posted on 12/19/2013 9:49:14 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (A Communist is nothing more than an honest Democrat...)
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To: chessplayer

Considering what a terrible job Bush did with his ObamaCare roll out, and the way he messed up DeathPanel.gov web site, I’m not surprised the voters blame him.


27 posted on 12/19/2013 9:50:51 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Look for the NEW media to start opening eyes and ears BIGTIME.


28 posted on 12/19/2013 9:51:18 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: chessplayer
And the thing is, the last financial disaster was caused by the housing meltdown, which was caused by The Democrats plan to make sure everyone had ‘Affordable Housing’...

Nothing to do with Bush, he just happened to be in office when the Dem-Controlled Congress let the disaster reach full proportions, so they could get a democrat elected as President.

And the same Democrats are going to cause AN EVEN BIGGER financial disaster by trying to make sure everyone has give “Affordable Heatlh Care”.

29 posted on 12/19/2013 9:55:32 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it. Period.)
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To: chessplayer

I don’t believe this for a minute. Most Americans cannot remember back 5 days, much less five years. I wager that if polled, a large segment of the population couldn’t even TELL you who was president before Obama.


30 posted on 12/19/2013 9:57:08 AM PST by fhayek
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To: sickoflibs

After the new Congress took the oath in Jan 2007, Bush’s nice guy persona became a huge liability towards the cause of limited government and free enterprise (After already being shaken to the core).


31 posted on 12/19/2013 10:09:36 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: chessplayer

Gee, the Washington Post finds yet another way to attack Bush and imply he is responsible for bad things. This is probably only about the millionth time they have done this. The poll is probably flawed.

I will say this, I have to talk to liberal Democrats all the time and liberals can not go more than a minute talking about anything without blaming Bush for something. There is no logic, no thought process and no reasoning. It is just Bush is to blame.


32 posted on 12/19/2013 10:10:13 AM PST by detective
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To: chessplayer

You believe everything you are told?


33 posted on 12/19/2013 10:11:00 AM PST by McGruff (How's that Hopey Changey thingy workin out for ya?)
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To: Mr. K
Nothing to do with Bush, he just happened to be in office when the Dem-Controlled Congress let the disaster reach full proportions, so they could get a democrat elected as President.

Actually, Bush and the Republican Congress bear some blame for the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac meltdown.

Specifically: They knew it was coming. They heard the testimony from the whistleblower in the toothless watchdog agency. Consequently, the House passed a Financial Reform Act in 2005, designed to address the problem. But the Democrats filibustered the measure in the Senate...and the Republican Senate caved in and gave up.

Had they been responsible stewards of the government, the GOP would've stood their ground and made a big issue out of the Democrats' recalcitrance -- indeed criminal behavior.

Instead, they threw their hands in the air and continued "business as usual" -- leaving the Democrats to pull the plug on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac when it best suited their interests...in September of an election year.

Aside from the Democrats, the one GOPer who was most to blame was, yes, wait for it, Sen. John Sidney McCain. He sponsored the reform measure in the Senate and, in a floor speech, described the probable consequences of inaction with prescient accuracy. Then, after the successful filibuster, he led the détente.

It was ironic justice that it was his presidential campaign that got derailed by the failure of Fannie and Freddie.

34 posted on 12/19/2013 10:16:23 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: rollo tomasi
RE :”After the new Congress took the oath in Jan 2007, Bush’s nice guy persona became a huge liability towards the cause of limited government and free enterprise (After already being shaken to the core).”

In 2007 GWB had a priority list of things he wanted or needed done.
Getting the Pelosi House to fund the Iraq surge was #1 on his list.
(As an aside Notice that Pelosi didnt let her lib House members shut down the military to defund Iraq in 2007.)

So Bush was willing to give in on Dem stuff to get stuff he wanted done. Then banned light bulbs, for future.

Then came TARP, same rule.

In the end it didnt help him wrt his legacy as this polls shows.

35 posted on 12/19/2013 11:11:53 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Mr. K
Nothing to do with Bush, he just happened to be in office

Sorry, this is simply not true.

Anyone with three functioning neurons could detect the inflating housing bubble by mid-2005 or so.

All Bush would have had to do would be to go public then with the announcement that there would be no bailouts of investors on his watch, that those holding mortgage backed securities did so entirely at their own risk.

Not a single Democrat vote needed.......

36 posted on 12/19/2013 11:13:08 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Mi tio es enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: okie01
the GOP would've stood their ground and made a big issue out of the Democrats' recalcitrance -- indeed criminal behavior.

Without cooperation from the Democrats the GOP would have been blamed not credited for reform and for hating minorities. The media would still be going on today about how much the right hates black people if you had taken away those subprimes back in the day when we had the majority.

37 posted on 12/19/2013 11:19:52 AM PST by what's up
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To: chessplayer

sorry, I already know the American voting majority is stupid.


38 posted on 12/19/2013 12:02:19 PM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: what's up
Without cooperation from the Democrats the GOP would have been blamed not credited for reform and for hating minorities. The media would still be going on today about how much the right hates black people if you had taken away those subprimes back in the day when we had the majority.

I understand your point.

But the GOP was faced with two choices:

a. Do the right thing for the country...and be pilloried by the press and the Democrats.

b. Or do nothing...only to have the economy collapse...and be pilloried by the press and the Democrats.

What, exactly, did McCain, Bush & Company gain by not rocking the boat?

Being passive and non-confrontational has failed to gain the party any credit. And, at the same time, the entire country has had to pay a terrible price.

Perhaps, it's time to try something else -- in the hope of arriving at a different result: To stand firmly on principle and fight for what's best.

39 posted on 12/19/2013 12:36:44 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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a. Do the right thing for the country...and be pilloried by the press and the Democrats.

Perhaps the right thing was NOT to take unilateral action. Bush tried to get the Democrats to vote with the GOP for reform because at least some form of bipartisanship (even token) really often is the only way to achieve lasting reform. That's one huge reason why Obamacare is crashing...it was unilateral.

If the GOP had gone unilateral on the subprimes, the MSM rhetoric would have been that the GOP were "dictators" and "racists" and we would have had a worse rout than we had '08. We'd likely still today have Dem House control and Obama would have gotten cap and trade, gun control, guananamo closed, etc. etc. etc.

Being passive and non-confrontational has failed to gain the party any credit

It's not about passivity. It's about trying to keep the country from being too divided because then you have Civil War.

40 posted on 12/19/2013 12:49:26 PM PST by what's up
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