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Why This Round Of The Republican Civil War Was Different
The Atlantic ^ | 12 December 2013 | Molly Ball

Posted on 12/13/2013 9:59:12 PM PST by zeestephen

So what happened? Why didn’t those Tea Party lawmakers and conservative groups get their way? Here’s what happened: Boehner took control.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehner; budgetcompromise; gopcivilwar; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; ryan
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To: CitizenUSA
Wow! Speaker Boehner really does have a spine, and we thought he was a complete pushover. Now we know he’ll fight...conservatives.

I saw him on Fox News, say he was as conservative as anyone. I am glad I took my blood pressure medication today. It was almost as big a whopper as Obama telling us we could keep our health plan.

21 posted on 12/14/2013 2:00:31 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: CitizenUSA
Boehner has his principled limits beyond which he cannot be pushed.

Left of center is his limit to the right.

22 posted on 12/14/2013 3:10:31 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: zeestephen

Washington is the problem, not the solution. The system corrupts them faster than we can vote them out. Only the state legislatures can save the country now.

Article V.


23 posted on 12/14/2013 3:38:21 AM PST by SC_Pete
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Republicans will face intense pressure over unemployment benefits
BY GREG SARGENT
December 11 at 12:24 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/12/11/republicans-will-face-intense-pressure-over-unemployment-benefits/

[snip] The imminent expiration of the Emergency Unemployment Compensation program for 1.3 million Americans is mostly being treated as a fait accompli in Washington... (Dems have created an interactive map showing how many people in each state stand to lose benefits.)... This strategy includes placing Op ed pieces by Democrats in papers that serve the districts of top Republicans, such as this one by Rep. Sander Levin in the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, the largest paper in John Boehner’s home state. The game plan is granular: One Democrat points out to me that stats are available on how many would lose benefits on the county level, and that Dems are trying to push these numbers into the coverage, because it is tangible for people in local communities. [/snip]


24 posted on 12/14/2013 4:19:38 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: GraceG
The Republic Has been Dead for 100 years, we are moving from Denial to Anger phase...

Well said. It has been sick for a hundred years, but it flatlined when Obamacare was passes on that snowey Christmas Eve. And more than the Republic died that night. A special and quiet ingredient in all if us died that night. (Hearing "Happy Holidays" makes me very angry this Christmas season).

25 posted on 12/14/2013 4:57:48 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it stood.)
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To: zeestephen

Boner has shown that he will fight. Fine.

Let my enemies stand against me in congress but I won’t vote for them.


26 posted on 12/14/2013 5:14:14 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: CitizenUSA

They are more comfortable fighting thier own because thier bread and butter is with the rats


27 posted on 12/14/2013 5:19:17 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: acapesket
No it is not all about me. I plan on driving 180 mile to help Amish when I can. But that said I will not vote for a nonconservative republican. My congressman has vote for Bonehead as speaker and everything he ask for.

I may vote for Terri Lyn land for Senate as well but not for the crappy repubs they give me.

28 posted on 12/14/2013 6:50:26 AM PST by jimpick
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To: zeestephen

“The conservative pressure groups have power because of their threatened ability to oust lawmakers who don’t meet their standard.

“But now Boehner, Ryan, and the rest of the Republican leaders have defied them, essentially calling their bluff.”

Well, payback can’t happen until the mid-term election primaries. The author of this piece is engaged in counting un-hatched chickens.


29 posted on 12/14/2013 7:11:07 AM PST by Tallguy (between taglines...)
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To: MHGinTN

Exactly, someone told him to allow the shutdown and now they are telling him what to do here. The man appears to be fully compromised.


30 posted on 12/14/2013 7:12:27 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: zeestephen

Note to the American people: You have the power to throw every single member of the House of Representatives out of office in 2014, along with one third of the U.S. Senate. By 2018 you can, if you please, replace every single member of the Congress of the United States. Pretty much the same thing applies to your corrupted state legislatures.

That is all.


31 posted on 12/14/2013 7:13:15 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.)
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To: Ray76

If Boehner somehow talks the GOP into passing amnesty after the first of the year they can kiss the conservative base goodbye. That wlll be the final straw for me and Mr. GG2.


32 posted on 12/14/2013 8:09:53 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kevmo
Hi.

That’s what I was gonna say. Now I have no good way to bump this thread.

Happens to me all the time, even when I don't read the thread...

5.56mm

33 posted on 12/14/2013 8:12:51 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: matthew fuller
Can’t exactly remember when I started calling republicans “them”, but it’s been a good while now.

Do as Robert E. Lee did. In conversation with friends, the GOP-E are now "those people".

34 posted on 12/14/2013 8:15:32 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You are correct, however I grow weary of totally rigid Consevatives who cannot see the forest for the trees. If you don’t have a Conservative you can vote for in your own state then help one in another.

I live in the blue bowels of progressive hell so I have to go outside to support others. These attitudes made Mitt lose, not that we had any adulation but hell would be better than this, any day


35 posted on 12/14/2013 9:17:16 AM PST by acapesket
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To: Tallguy

I noticed that, too.


36 posted on 12/14/2013 9:33:31 AM PST by Ray76
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To: SunkenCiv
RE: “Republicans will face intense pressure over unemployment benefits.”

I've discussed this on two other threads.

The GOP leadership is currently bragging about its “mature and principled” stand against extreme Conservatives.

But, their spineless budget compromise has bought less than a month of political peace with the MSM and Democrat Party.

Harry Reid is publicly - repeat, publicly - on the record saying he will introduce legislation in January to restore unemployment and Food Stamp cuts, plus legislation to raise the minimum wage.

So, four weeks from now, the MSM will be assaulting the GOP as the party of stone cold heartless misers.

And who is Boehner assaulting?

Conservatives!

37 posted on 12/14/2013 1:32:01 PM PST by zeestephen
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