Thank you for the kind words. I greatly appreciate it. That said, again, it’s not about me and to be honest, there’s not one of these idiots capable of driving me to do anything but mock them.
However:
There comes a time when one has to take stock of reality. And I am not saying FR is unique. It is just one of many sites plagued by pretend conservatives with pretend principles infiltrating it’s userbase and running wild.
None of what we currently believe to be Right wing/Conservative websites is immune. And to date, they each share one key feature. In the name of debate/free speech/open expression, many of the sites, and the people on them push and push and push the most unconservative/Right of positions. Things that a mere 10 years ago would have been hammered into oblivion by said sites and the actual conservatives on them.
If anyone can explain how “Compartmentalizing” (thanks for bringing that up Invar) things like Abortion, calling it’s supporters ‘a lesser Evil” and then attacking people who refuse to vote for them is in ANY WAY part and parcel of conservatism or a conservative philosophy, they should explain themselves/position so we can all accept r reject it and then ‘move on’ to the next issue.
And there are MANY next issues that must be addressed to determine what modern conservatism actually is.
When so many repeat ad nausem that we must have principled and honest leaders we can trust, then turn on a freaking dime and demand we vote for something quite the opposite, is there really any excuse? Really? Because if there is a legit excuse then not conservativism in any accepted definition, nor principle by any accepted definition. What it i, is situational ethics. And is situational ethics the polar opposite of principle?
by extension, are people practicing situational ethics principled? How can they be?
Words have meanings. And it is long past the time where we on the right need to look inside ourselves and ask what it is we really believe. Because I would again submit that if we don’t have a clue what we really believe, how can we ever hope to bring anyone along with it?
When a number of us spent months trying to get straight answers from people before, during and after the Romney disaster, no one wanted to hear it. Many were locked into fear mode or were ‘pragmatic” (read that fully exercising situational ethics). On this thread earlier, one of those people rehashed the ‘placeholder” meme.
What has that accomplished? Well, the facts and actual documented history show that their failed effort to install on open liberal as a republican president helped open the floodgates to a more liberal GOP congress and senate.
That’s not a fantasy, a lie or an opinion. It is a fact and anyone continuing to deny it in light of the GOP’s recent attacks on conservatives, move hard left on Amnesty/gay marriage, the refusal to pursue any more than a show trial/investigations over Holder/Bhenghazi/Clinton...
Is lying to themselves and more importantly, to the rest of us.
Now before one of the ethically flexible decides to call me arrogant/preachy/whatever, they should know that it ain’t arrogant to be correct. And I challenge them to factually disprove a single thing I have said here,
Now to wrap this War and Peace post up, I would say this. No man or handful of people is an army. Can they make a difference? Sure. However, we don’t have the luxury continuing a failed model. YEARS have elapsed as the current model has played out and the result is a fractured Conservative case that can’t do anything but point fingers at the GOP and be pissed.
Instead, we need to follow a 12 step kinds thing and ADMIT that we have a problem. Then fix it. And like the most hardcore of drunks/addicts, sometimes you just have to let them hit bottom before they are ready to begin the road to recovery.
Sometimes they don’t make it. And there’s nothing you or I can do about it. We have tried to turn these people over and over. Through facts, historical example and current proof. And like those drunks, they just go right back to the bottle rather than face reality.
When they decide to address their problem. I will be glad to do what I can to help. For now. Not so much.
I will continue to fight them here and even in the streets should it come to that. I love this Republic and what is was FOUNDED upon... enough to give what little value my life has to defend her existence. They will have to kill me and millions like you and me before they can extinguish that light. If you need backup... call... I will battle beside you and fight anyone on this site if they stand against Freedom and Liberty. The rat party and the almost rat party are our enemies and the enemy to all who believe in our unique creation... and it was a creation touched by GOD and the Holy Spirit in its founding. You are not alone.
LLS
In conjunction with Norm’s thoughts in post 209, we need to be mindful of something that has been warned about - and it explains to a large degree, the problem being addressed:
“The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. “ -2 Thessalonians 2:9-10
Without getting into a theological argument - the historic and biblical fact is that all civilizations that have collapsed and fell into ruin - have suffered this same exact fate. While Paul is specifically addressing the final fall of man’s age in the world in this passage - the fact is lawlessness in a society is the working of Satan himself. When such lawlessness exists in a society, a people who benefit from corruption or have learned to live under it, will not hear any truth - even if the truth will save them from calamity.
But here is the root cause of what Norm is talking about:
“And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” - 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
When you read people who think they are ‘conservative’ who demand we vote for a lesser evil and support a corrupted party - they are people who are strongly deluded to believe the lies, who will not hear the truth, even when the truth would save them. They are comfortable with the status quo, fear evil more than they fear God and/or benefit from the corruption itself.
As such - like Norm suggests - we have to leave them to their own destruction. There is no pleading with them, or winning them over by persuasion. We have to walk away from them for they are in league with the enemy. They will attack you with more vigor than even those they claim to oppose. Treason from within is much worse than an external enemy. We have nothing in common with such people any longer. The social compact is dissolved because we let evil take up residence among us. We either flee and resist evil, or we will be conquered by it.
God is not going to fight this battle for us because we as a people have refused to take a stand against evil. We’ve done nothing to protect the gift of liberty bequeathed to us - therefore God is not going to protect us from the evil we have surrendered to.
It is humble to admit our sin, repent and then stand and resist evil. What we have to beware of, is those who tell us to sit quiet and wait on the Lord.
God was waiting on us to stand up for our principles and faith.