Posted on 12/11/2013 6:31:03 AM PST by Morgana
Once there was a boy so meek and modest, he was awarded a Most Humble badge. The next day, it was taken away because he wore it. Here endeth the lesson.
How do you practice humility from the most exalted throne on earth? Rarely has a new player on the world stage captured so much attention so quicklyyoung and old, faithful and cynicalas has Pope Francis. In his nine months in office, he has placed himself at the very center of the central conversations of our time: about wealth and poverty, fairness and justice, transparency, modernity, globalization, the role of women, the nature of marriage, the temptations of power.
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They don't? Then why do they go to Confession when they're 5 years old? Why are they spanked when they're 3 years old?
Did boatbums mention democrats?
Why’d you bring them up, because Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and Barry are also democrats?
Pope Francis is obviously not a democrat or a republican. What is he then?
He’s the Pope of the Catholic Church and no political party controls him. Everything he has said so far were things that Benedict also believed in. The only difference in the two is Benedict wrote down his thoughts, he didn’t get in from of the liberal media and give them anything that could be misconstrued. Years of experience working alongside JP2 taught him to stay as far away from the media as humanly possible. Hopefully Francis will learn the same lesson soon, but not before he tells these morons that he’s a Catholic and there will be no abortion, no women clergy, and no sodomite “marriage”. The Vatican should pay for a 30 minute time slot to run on all the major media outlets. Then you would see the media turn on him like they have every other Pope.
>>Hopefully Francis will learn the same lesson soon, but not before he tells these morons that hes a Catholic and there will be no abortion, no women clergy, and no sodomite marriage. <<
I hope so too, but I’m not holding my breath. Did you see what Uncle Walter Kasper has had to say in the past couple of days?
Yet again, the point is lost because of a knee-jerk reaction to anything that even slightly sounds negative towards the Roman Catholic Church. Ponder this, NKP_Vet, is the same mindset controlling the people that award this kind of thing than those who did in the past? Could it possibly be a far different one than that of Churchill, Reagan, Eisenhower, Kissinger, et al??? Are you unaware of the huge left-ward shift of the media in the last twenty to sixty years?
Like I said, they ONLY chose Francis because of his seeming (and I am withholding judgment on his political leanings) anti-Capitalism, pro-Socialism/Communism statements. Can you get your mind around that a little better?
I pay no attention to Kaspar. But I will say again that Francis is a son of the Church and will do nothing to make liberals happy. Sooner or later they will get the message.
Go back to 1927 and look at the list of winners of the Man of the Year. All in the hell it is is a publicity contest. Who makes the most noise that the media can report about wins the prize. Time Magazine was on the verge of giving it to Mel Gibson (who they hate with a burning passion) and Michael Moore as co-winners in 2003. But the two had to stand on stage together and Gibson refused to get on a stage with the leftist clown Moore. They ended up giving it to George Bush, who the media also despised.
Including Pope Francis, I hope.
Pope Francis does:
In a surprising move, Pope Francis mentioned Cardinal Walter Kasper. It was the Popes first reference to a living theologian. The German cardinal is the President Emeritus of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity. Kasper served as an assistant to the controversial theologian Hans Küng. And, Kasper has entered into debate at times with the former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. The two men often debated the relationship between the universal and particular Church.
Pope Francis called Cardinal Walter Kasper un teologo in gamba, which caused Italians in the crowd to chuckle. Their reaction elicited confusion from non-Italians. After the Angelus, I spoke with some native speakers of Italian. Each one told me that the expression in gamba is colloquial. A priest told me it is Italian street language. The expression means something along the lines of a good or clever man. One Italian fluent in English explained to me that the expression is equivalent to our dude or the German Mensch. Use of the expression indicates something about Pope Francis closeness to the Roman people. He isnt someone who hides behind the grandeur of his papal office; his presence is immediate he connects with common people. As the BBC explained, the Pope is a natural communicator.
If that was Pope Francis' first Angelus, I tremble at the thought of his last one.
That's not true, Pope Francis has already overruled Pope Benedict's Summorum Pontificum..
And Cardinal Ratzinger / Pope Benedict did not say, "Who am I to judge", when it came to keeping or admitting homos to the priesthood.
Pope Benedict also did not appoint a queer priest to head the Vatican bank.
So? You're a simpleton to not be able to think past that one thought.
George W. Bush won the Time Man of the Year because he was so liberal and the media loved the hell out of him for invading Iraq. Well, what the hell I must have been under a rock.
And that great liberal icon Ronald Reagan won it twice.
Let’s not forget about that other great liberal
Pope John Paul 2.
I’ve been so stupid. All these years I thought the media despised these men but found out from you they were all liberals. Must have been because Time is a liberal publication and only gives awards to liberals.
Pardon the hell out of me.
Almost forgot about the great liberal hero Vladimir Putin.
He won too. When in the world will Time starting giving this award to conservatives?
“And Cardinal Ratzinger / Pope Benedict did not say, “Who am I to judge”, when it came to keeping or admitting homos to the priesthood”
Both Benedict and Francis agree with the Catechism of the Catholic Church on the treatment of homosexuals. Absolutely nothing will change in the Catholic Church on homosexuals, women or abortion. Nothing.
As far as the Tridentine Mass, Pope Francis loves it and it’s being held more now than ever, in every city in the world.
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/tridentine-mass-draws-international-pilgrims-to-rome/
I noticed that you failed to STILL address my whole point. Which was:
Do you think for one moment that it was because he is so adamantly anti-abortion/homosexual marriage/contraception? I'll even bet you that, IF he had spoken as frequently against these "sacraments" of Liberalism as he continues to do against Capitalism and the free market, I seriously DOUBT he would have been selected. Do you agree?
So, do you agree or don't you? You can rave on and on at everyone who doesn't agree with you on whatever point you think you are making but if you presume that "we" are only questioning the naming of Pope Francis as Time's Person of the Year because we are anti-Catholics then you need to adjust your view.
Regretfully, I see schism in our future.
Francis wears the trappings of humility, but his forays into matters secular say otherwise; he’s a man in love with his own pronouncements. The priesthood is full of people who welcome all his misstatements, and this will be fed to Catholic youngsters without the caveat that the Pope’s opinion in these matters is no more informed nor insightful than Donald Trump’s. I say this with sadness. John Paul and Benedict were truly humble, in my opinion.
“Do you think for one moment that it was because he is so adamantly anti-abortion/homosexual marriage/contraception”.
So the question back at you. What on earth did Time magazine see in George W. Bush or Ronald Reagan to give them this award. Especially Bush, who they despised with a burning passion. Don’t tap dance around the question. Answer it. What was one thing that Bush did that they agreed with so much that they made George W. Bush of all people the Time Man of the Year?
>>As far as the Tridentine Mass, Pope Francis loves it and its being held more now than ever, in every city in the world.<<
If he loves it, why has he never celebrated it? Why has he forbidden the Franciscans of the Immaculate from offering it?
No, what *did* he say? He is also the one who admitted that Vatican II was intentionally ambiguous.
“Why has he forbidden the Franciscans of the Immaculate from offering it”
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=19632
The former prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy has told a traditionalist group that Pope Francis has no intention of restricting access to the Extraordinary Form of the Latin liturgy.
I met Pope Francis very recently and he told me that he has no problem with the old rite, and neither does he have any problem with lay groups and associations like yours that promote it, Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos told members of Una Voce International (FIUV), who were in Rome for a general assembly.
Responding to questions from FIUV members about tensions within the Friars of the Immaculate, the Colombian cardinal said that the Pope moved to insist on the use of the Novus Ordo in that religious community only because of internal dissension, and not because of any negative judgment on the traditional liturgy.
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