Posted on 12/09/2013 8:00:38 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Just as cars cant go anywhere without drivers and employees cant work without bosses, health care doesnt happen when there are no doctors around. And when an estimated 70 percent of the doctors in the nations deepest-blue state are rebelling against Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act is forcing a critical decision: America will have to junk Obamacare and go back to square one on health insurance reform, or trash the last vestige of private health care in this country by forcing doctors to do the governments bidding.
The rebellion among California physicians was detailed earlier this week by Washington Examiner senior investigative reporter Richard Pollock. Independent insurance brokers who work with both insurance companies and doctor networks estimate that about 70 percent of California's 104,000 licensed doctors are boycotting the exchange, Pollock wrote. The president and speaker of the legislative body of the California Medical Association -- the Golden State chapter of the Obamacare-endorsing American Medical Association -- both confirmed to Pollock that the rebellion is widespread and intensely felt.
California's doctor rebellion isn't unique. Pollock previously reported comparable situations at 15 other locations around the country. Not only are thousands of doctors saying no to Obamacare, so are major health insurance providers, including United Healthcare, Aetna and Cigna, as well as some of the nation's most famous hospitals....
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They’re just going to force good doctors out. Then they’ll have to replace them by taking over the medical schools and cranking out a bunch of poor, affirmative action replacements, which Barky sees as somehow a desirable outcome. White America is just going to sit there and take it rather than risk being called racist by the likes of Matthews. Effing country is doomed.
When the PO’ed doctors attend to a leftist politician I wonder what the fatality rate will be. I hope there will be a rash of reports of politicians choking on amputated genetals.
Then, they thought everyone would be on board because Obama is so great.
Poor baby.
When you can force someone to work, isn’t that called slavery?
“By the time I moved to Cuba in 1997, there were serious shortages of medicine - from simple aspirin to more badly needed drugs.
Ironically, many medicines that cannot be found at a pharmacy are easily bought on the black market. Some doctors, nurses and cleaning staff smuggle the medicine out of the hospitals in a bid to make extra cash.
Although medical attention remains free, many patients did and still do bring their doctors food, money or other gifts to get to the front of the queue or to guarantee an appointment for an X-ray, blood test or operation.
If you do not have a contact or money to pay under the table, the waiting time for all but emergency procedures can be ridiculously long.
Many Cubans complain that top-level government and Communist Party officials have access to VIP health treatment, while ordinary people must queue from dawn for a routine test, with no guarantee that the allotted numbers will not run out before it is their turn.
And while the preventative healthcare system works well for children, women over the age of 40 are being shortchanged because yearly mammograms are not offered to the population at large.
I saw many hospitals where there was often no running water, the toilets did not flush, and the risk of infections - by the hospital’s own admission - was extremely high.
Healthcare for hard currency
In all fairness, in the past five years, the government has made great efforts to improve hospitals and health centres, but again, lack of resources is making the process painfully slow.
The system is free, but it is neither fast nor efficient for two important reasons. One is obviously the lack of financial resources, and the other - which is related to the first - is the “export” of doctors, nurses and dentists in exchange for hard currency.
Thousands of Cuban doctors go to Venezuela to provide primary healthcare there. Their tour of duty lasts a minimum of two years and they are paid approximately $50 a month, plus expenses. In exchange, Hugo Chavez, Venezuela’s president, sends Cuba petrol, part of which can be sold for hard currency.
When a friend of mine was unable to be operated on as scheduled, because there was no anesthesiologist available, “they are all in Venezuela” was a complaint I regularly heard.
Over the years, I have heard many complain about the deteriorating quality of the services offered. One of the problems is that no small number of Cuban doctors have left the country looking for better opportunities abroad. They are considered deserters.”
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/06/201265115527622647.html
As they said in the Soviet Union, “ you pretend to pay, we pretend to work”. This will be the response of physicians to the involuntary servitude of 0-care. We know that Medicaid patients receive worse care than those w/o insurance, so how bad will it be when doctors are “forced” to see patients.
Well here is a solution suggested by a leftist recently. Doctors could simply do group visits to satisfy their quota of “seeing” 0-care patients. Just put 20-30 in a conference room and have patients fill out questionnaires and ask the doctor some questions. The whole thing will take about 30 minutes and the quota will be fulfilled.
Provider licenses are issued through the State Boards. The King will have to fight that out 57 times. No state mandates Medicaid/care participation (that I know of, anyway.)
Wrong. I can’t be forced to do anything. I will walk away from medical practice if need be. So will most other docs. Obama forgets that to get through medical school we are fairly intelligent and motivated people. We can find something else to do.
Well they now have racial quotas for med schools and some schools are cutting the degree to 3 years.
Yo Lurk... Tell us how you really feel.
‘oohrah! :-)
We are living in interesting times. When the Dems tried to create Romney Care at the national level, big insurance companies salivated at the prospect. Forcing everyone to buy their product is a corporate wet dream. When Obama decided to drop the single payer (no insurance companies involved) to the exchange system like Romney Care, the insurance companies dropped opposition and joined the Dems in drawing up ACA.
Big money have been invested the last four years and the insurance companies want their big payoff. Problem is gov fumbled the website, lied about it to get it passed and now young people and doctors are opting out. Guess what when big gov is embarrassed and face the prospect of losing control and big business is not getting their big payoff, both will unite to use force and draconian methods to force compliance. For the Dems it is about saving face, but for big business (insurance) it is about money. Corporate America will kill or hurt for money, especially if failure hits them at the jugular. The 21st Century has become an American Facist Century where big business and big gov work together to screw and promote. Obamacare may expose this alliance and how ruthless both will go to get what they want. If the people wake up and revolt, two groups will hang side by side from the lamp posts of America, corporate CEO’s and big gov politicians.
Yes, the unions supported Obamacare and then obtained waivers from participating in it.
I think it will be tangential in its development. First the Federal government will require all physicians to become members of the “Federal Association of Physicians”. Then they will enact a law requiring, ‘in order to practice medicine all physicians will be required to join the “Federal Association of Physicians”. Then they will enact a law which requires in order to practice medicine, all members of the “Federal Association of Physicians” must not discriminate against any patient and is required to conform to the requirement that they treat any and all patients as prescribed by the act and agrees to comply , upon penalty of fine, and or imprisonment, to treat any patient coming to see him. If he refuses he forfeits membership in the”Federal Association of Physicians”, and thus cannot practice medicine on any patients in the states or territories of the United States of America.
I can see that happening too
Sure, but it would be grossly unethical, it would produce terrible medical results, and when Americans get bad medical results they sue. Also, after it happens a few times those unethical doctors would lose their licenses.
Sounds like a perfect leftist solution to me. It completely ignores reality.
That's the carrot. The stick will be IRS audits, blacklisting at hospitals, and threatening to jerk their license to practice medicine.
I left the country to practice overseas for at least the next 2 years .
Over 20 years of ER experience.
I think group visits will become mandatory under O-care actually.
doctors might not want to be a part of Obamacare,
In their own repugnant arrogance they know they can “create new rules and regs” in ObamaramaCare with Reid dealing the cards and Boehner asking how high.
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