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South Carolina voting on bill to end Obamacare in state
The Daily Caller ^ | December 9, 2013 | Bruce Parker

Posted on 12/09/2013 10:19:46 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A bill set for fast-track passage in the South Carolina Senate in January aims to eliminate Obamacare in the state. The law could become a model for other states fed up with the federal health-care law.

House Bill 3101, titled the “South Carolina Freedom of Health Care Protection Act,” passed the state House of Representatives last April by a 65-34 vote. The bill now heads to the GOP-controlled Senate with special-order priority, setting up the likelihood that South Carolina will become the first state to exempt citizens and businesses from all participation in the Affordable Care Act.

State Sen. Tom Davis, the bill’s sponsor who recently wrapped up study committee hearings for H3101 in Columbia, Charleston and other cities, says that the proposed legislation renders the Affordable Care Act void or inoperable through a handful of provisions...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: abolishobamacare; aca; obama; obamacare; scabolishobamacare; southcarolina
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can see this going to the Supreme Court. If it works, I can see a lot of people and businesses moving there.


21 posted on 12/09/2013 11:03:08 AM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nullification of federal laws within states is nothing new it was part of what lead to the civil war. But of course that entire issue has been dumbed down to just being about slavery in the 150 years since


22 posted on 12/09/2013 11:05:35 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: BunnySlippers; bigbob

Actually, this looks to be a fairly well thought out strategy of passive aggression. The Printz precedent is an effective weapon against efforts of the fed to canibalize state infrastructure for its own purposes. There will be retaliation, of course, but the SC team appear to be thinking a few moves ahead, so this could get very interesting.


23 posted on 12/09/2013 11:08:54 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Din Maker

Context. There is probably not a better time than right now to dig in on this. They will need popular support to stand against the fed, and they now have the people in a state of high alertness, thanks to Obamacare’s October Oops and all its ongoing fallout. This is the time.


24 posted on 12/09/2013 11:20:43 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: HamiltonJay

The same logic should apply to all federal impositions on the sovereign States and their constitutional roles and responsibilities.

Medicaid, child support enforcement, education, all the way down to traffic enforcement campaigns . . . which the states “voluntarily” undertake to get “federal” money . . .

BUT WHERE does “federal” money come from ??? We are citizens of the several sovereign States. The feds have no direct citizens except maybe the territories such as Somoa . . .

The imposition can only work because the feds take the lion’s share of the tax revenue of the people of the States!

It should be the other way around since the fed’s constitutional powers are limited.

Logically the feds should not be able to impose DIRECT TAXATION on residents of the sovereign States. IMHO.

The States need to be doing a lot more of the type of thing.


25 posted on 12/09/2013 11:33:20 AM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
the “South Carolina Freedom of Health Care Protection Act,” passed the state House of Representatives last April by a 65-34 vote

Fast-track?
26 posted on 12/09/2013 11:49:56 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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Davis adds that lawmakers in Columbia are considering two additional provisions: one that outlaws Medicaid expansion, and another that suspends the licenses of insurers who receive federal subsidies under the Affordable Care Act.

Wow. That's pretty big.
27 posted on 12/09/2013 11:52:42 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: AMDG&BVMH
Logically the feds should not be able to impose DIRECT TAXATION on residents of the sovereign States. IMHO.

Makes sense, and if they had to lexy the tax on the state governments, those governments would all of a sudden get a lot more uppity about federal taxes, since they would want to be the ones who distribute the bennies.

28 posted on 12/09/2013 11:58:56 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is a good move even if it won't stand. It will force Obama back into the courts and allow SCOTUS a do over to make the right decision.
29 posted on 12/09/2013 12:03:27 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: Irenic

The 1st state in the union to sceede in CW I is doing it again.


30 posted on 12/09/2013 12:04:02 PM PST by DownInFlames
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Won’t work. Obama’s COURTS will throw it out, and then, they will DENY that anyone has “Standing” to sue over it.


31 posted on 12/09/2013 12:07:54 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's a remarkably good law. I'd love to see the rest of the free or at least partially free states [Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming] pass similar laws. This could lead to a race to the bottom, where social parasites leave the states that refuse ObamaCare and move on to burden the far left states. Key points:

. . . prohibits agencies, officers and employees of the state of South Carolina from implementing any provisions of the Affordable Care Act . . . outlawing state exchanges, issuing tax deductions to individuals equal to the tax penalties levied by the federal government, and directing the state attorney general to sue over whimsical enforcement of the law . . . considering two additional provisions: one that outlaws Medicaid expansion, and another that suspends the licenses of insurers who receive federal subsidies under the Affordable Care Act.

I especially like the last provision, which puts an absolute stop to ObamaCare in the state where the First Civil War started - and where we might, with luck avoid a Second Civil War. Since this is a flexible law, for which waivers are commonplace and provisions are routinely rewritten or ignored based on executive orders with no legal justification at all, I see no reason why a state legislature cannot implement the will of the people and dismantle this evil law properly.

32 posted on 12/09/2013 12:28:15 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oooooh. That’s gonna leave a mark.


33 posted on 12/09/2013 12:33:38 PM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: 2harddrive
Obama’s COURTS will throw it out, and then, they will DENY that anyone has “Standing” to sue over it.

Actually, I don't think the federal courts can do that lawfully. Particularly if the law suspends the licenses of insurers who receive ObamaCare subsidies, the feds do not have the authority to control state licensing of insurance companies. That's as far out of line as federal courts interfering in our local schools.

34 posted on 12/09/2013 12:34:19 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

“Actually, I don’t think the federal courts can do that lawfully. Particularly if the law suspends the licenses of insurers who receive ObamaCare subsidies, the feds do not have the authority to control state licensing of insurance companies. That’s as far out of line as federal courts interfering in our local schools.”

What does “lawfull” have to do with it? It is about power, and the “Courts” DO interfere with our local schools.


35 posted on 12/09/2013 12:58:19 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More power to them. No flying the flag at half-mast for melanin-abundant deceased communist terrorists and now this - what’s going on there?


36 posted on 12/09/2013 1:05:32 PM PST by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Vermont can pass laws to set up single payer then other states can have the right to set up free market insurance. The leftists can’t have it both ways. Tie the two together.


37 posted on 12/09/2013 1:10:21 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: 2harddrive
the “Courts” DO interfere with our local schools.

I remembered that after I commented that it would be unlawful, so I had to add that detail for entertainment.

38 posted on 12/09/2013 1:17:47 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And if the federal government insists upon asserting its supremacy, is South Carolina going to fire on Fort Sumter?


39 posted on 12/09/2013 1:20:25 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“AYE”


40 posted on 12/09/2013 2:05:02 PM PST by PapaNew
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