Posted on 12/08/2013 5:59:59 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
(I still maintain that the better situation would be to not bake anything at all - the above would just be an option to provide a fitting cake)
And risk jail time? I’d make the cake, but tell the gays that I’d donate at least half of the fee to the FRC, or buy a lot of Chick fil A sandwiches.
“So this is what it looks like when liberty dies....”
We are indeed, a nation gone under.
Being under God never, ever was the responsibility of Caesar.
It pains me to bring this obvious thing to light.
We had a system where we could be under God and then control Caesar. The envy of the world.
And we went for the bread and the circuses and went la-di-dah about the levers, only one (not not even the most influential) of which is the general election.
not not => and not
When stuff like that happens, it gives you little choice but to sell the business or just close it up and move.
I am surprised they have not done so already...
I’ve wondered about 1st Amendment rights. He might be “forced” to furnish a blank cake, but he still can’t be made to write anything that is an abomination upon it. At least if the 1st Amendment means something.
Ultimately if Caesar fails to keep even his own promises, then rebellion is needed. What form the rebellion should take, is a matter of God’s guidance. God can be quite creative. (What would you expect out of the Creator?) Not necessarily every frontal attack we might envision is the way; sometimes it is a sort of spiritual jiu-jitsu (to borrow a term), working “with” your opponent to get his attack thwarted.
Here is their website, http://masterpiececakes.com/
These people have to live in that community or leave it behind in their wake...When the judicial system gets involved in a private business's ability to decline to service anyone for any reason short of race or creed as that has been enshrined in out constitution, the freedom compact or unwritten understanding of what freedom is or should be, has been damaged irreparably. (The best evidence is the hate crime laws passed by congress)
The US, as a collection of states, and individual local governments has plenty of other opportunities. If they want to fight this legally it will cost a great deal of money and they may be able to win, but at what cost..
They can either surrender or leave...
As to the fix for this, there is but one...
The rotten planks have to be removed by force, using tools of the trade and then replaced with new ones..
That is the fix..it is costly but it's the only fix there is..anything short of that is a not a fix...Its a compromise. And I don't think that God has a opinion on the methods employed..at least he sure has not had one in the past 2000 years. I'm guessing he just judges the results at the proper time and place. But what do I know...? What I do know is that we do what we have to do, if it is deemed important. That is the question. Do enough of us think it is important enough to destroy the rotten foundations of this country in order to fix it? I know what I would do...It's a easy decision for me..
Fine based on which aw?
To dissolve the business and create a new one, perhaps with better defined customer terms would then create a new situation. As just one possibility. You can’t tremble so before tyrants that you limit your options.
Take the fine and don’t pay it...
This is not the godly paradigm though quite acknowledged it is the worldly one. The godly paradigm is to supply what is spiritually lacking in a situation. Perhaps even wobbly enemies may be made to cease their opposition, as well as friends strengthened. And the stubborn opposition will be isolated and robbed of support and made to fall by the wayside.
What will occur is obvious. If they do not comply fully, they will be cited by the administrative judge as not being in compliance with a state statute. This ruling was only a formality. The next step in the process is the ruling that the little christian company is in default and has not complied which makes them liable for a variety of monetary fines and or revocation of their business licenses. If they don't pay the fines and comply, the state will seize their assets to pay the fine and they will be effectively silenced and shut down.
There is no point in it unless they want to be a martyr.. So what would you have them do?..Hire a private army of lawyers to protect them, or just pick a different battle, perhaps one they can win.... This is not going to get better through legal means..the entire process has been contaminated. Better to pick your battles right now...withdraw if necessary and keep your powder dry... You will need it...
Well yes, sometimes fading back is needed, but to stop at fading back is foolish when a God of infinite resources can be called upon.
This is a spiritual battle, from start to finish.
And anyhow this is the sort of thing that ACLJ loves to get involved with. Don’t put a limit on how God can stand up, when He is being resolutely glorified.
Be wise. And by the way it is Christian, not christian. The honorific capital is earned by God, if by nobody else.
If you want to use limited resources against this, a unwinnable fight with a statute codified into law and interpreted by the state. The fight is far too late in coming..It's been lost already when the statute was passed into law.
The real fight is yet to come. assuming anyone has the balls to fight it, of which I have many doubts..
I miss the days when slavery was banned in America. Being compelled to work against your will and in violation of your religious beliefs is shockingly un-American, and I am disgusted with anyone who facilitates that evil agenda. Those filing the lawsuit, representing the bullies, and ruling in favor of slavery should be shunned, along with their families.
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