[BuckeyeTexan]

That’s actually a myth. Texas has the right to break up into five states but not secede.

Regardless, it doesn’t matter whether or not we have “the right.” As gunner said, when the time comes, we won’t be asking for permission.

[marron]

when the time comes, we won’t be asking for permission.

My belief is that if an attempt resulted in a re-set of the 9th and 10th amendments, secession wouldn't be necessary.

My second thought is that defacto secession will occur the day that Austin or some other state capital refuses to enforce or allow to be enforced some dictate from DC. That will force a reset in the 9th and 10th amendments.

But you have to be willing to go all the way when that day comes. Its like when you pull a gun. You never pull it unless you are ready to go to its ultimate consequence.

[x]

As gunner said, when the time comes, we won’t be asking for permission.

Because that worked out so well last time?

Why is it always more important to be a jerk about it than to achieve peaceful separation by mutual consent, which would at least be a rational goal?

[Scoutmaster]

Arguably, Texas gave up the right to split into five states when it entered into the Compromise of 1850 and relinquished all claims to New Mexico, Colorado, etc., in return for $10 million.

Splitting into additional states is already addressed in Article IV, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution anyway:

New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

[DoodleDawg]

Texas has the right to break up into five states but not secede.

I don't think it has the right to even do that without the consent of Congress and the Texas legislature. That's in Article IV, Section 3.