Posted on 12/05/2013 12:19:03 PM PST by Kaslin
Of course it does.
Tomorrow we will take a vote on what the freezing point of water should be.
Wasn’t there a woman on city council somewhere who wanted to change the law of gravity if it got in the way of the business of governing?
It is the owners of the fossil fuel industry who are foisting this scam.
Start looking for a tax on ICE CUBES.
With those two facts in hand it borders on a level of stupid that needs to be hospitalized to say that a temp fluctuation of one or two degrees is something of evidential significance.
Yep, and I’m demanding that Pi be normalized to 3.0. It’s for the children.
Bang Zoom No Net!
Science and Democracy have nothing in common.
Science is based on objective testing of all ideas, which include speculations, assumptions, hypotheses and theories.
Democracy is based on the tribal emotion at the time of voting, nothing more.
Science requires all Scientists to prove themselves wrong, and requires all Scientists to prove each other wrong. After exhaustive futile testing, the hypothesis might be raised to the level of a Theory, but must be tested as additional evidence is made available.
Democracy is based on the winner take all tribal emotion that “my Tribe is better than your Tribe.”
Thank you Benjamin Franklin for giving us a Republic, not a Democracy.
What do we burn besides witches?
Wood!
So how do we tell if she’s made of wood?
She’ll float!
What else floats?
A Duck!
So if she weighs the same as a duck, she’s made of wood,
and therefore, a WITCH!
Democracy is based on the tribal emotion at the time of voting, nothing more.
BINGO!
Sounds to me like they are having a helluva lot of global warming out there in the Midwest.
Northwest, too. If global warming gets any worse around here we could be headed for double digits on the thermometer...
Stay safe and warm my FRiend.
The part about Obama saying 97% of scientists agreed with the AGW theory is of course just another Obama lie, due to data manipulation.
For example (from Cook et al cited in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveys_of_scientists’_views_on_climate_change):
“They found that, while 66.4% of them expressed no position on anthropogenic global warming (AGW), of those that did, 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming.”
One way to describe this is that 33% of scientists publishing in the area agreed with AGW, 1% disagreed, and 66% expressed no opinion. But, even look at the survey question: “endorsed the consensus position,” hardly a neutral proposition.
Taking a vote on the freezing point of water: When you can conduct laboratory experiments, it is pretty easy to obtain consensus.
Regarding temperature change of a few degrees:
1. The AGW position was formerly the hockey stick position; that global temperature had been remarkably contrast for more than a thousand years prior to the industrial revolution. As you point out, this has been massively contradicted.
2. The problem with acknowledging that there is natural variation is clearly that this is a complex problem and nobody really knows. So, why is this such an urgent thing that countries are willing to sacrifice 30 percent of global GDP which, with the redistribution of the wealth part of Kyoto, forcing the people of the advanced economies of the world to bear the brunt of this reduction? It is because of the conjecture that global temperature is regulated by a stable equilibrium. That is, that once global temperature rises past a critical level, we will head to the state of Venus; and, conversely, if global temperature were to fall past a critical level, we would head to the state of Mars.
3. This conjecture cannot be proved true or false unless we conduct the experiment and the theoretical possibility that it true means we have to do whatever it takes, including population control, to avoid the experiment.
4. But, this is all hokum. Because this planet is populated by a rather intelligent and resourceful species, were we to notice the temperature spiraling upward, we would do whatever we had to to arrest the trend. Indeed, this is what we’ve been doing the past 30 years or so, since the alarmists shifted from being afraid of global cooling to being afraid of global warming. It is only because the rise of temperature has stopped, that the alarmist position has become something of an embarrassment. But, let’s do the thought experiment. What if global temperature had continued to rise these past 15 years? What if the Arctic ice pack had disappeared? What if the Himalaya became denuded of their snow caps?
5. As it is, I think if the AGW theory continued to appear to be true, the most efficient way to deal with it would be to build nuclear power plants (for electricity) and then piping the condensed steam inland so as to irrigate the vast deserts of the world (in Australia, southwestern U.S., Saudi Arabia and the Sahara) and plant trees to pull carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere. But, hey, what do I know?
It is because of the conjecture that global temperature is regulated by a stable equilibrium.
I mean “not regulated.”
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