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Washington Post Op-Ed Goes Viral: End Presidential Term Limits (With Poll to FReep)
Mediaite ^ | November 30, 2013 | Andrew Kirell

Posted on 11/30/2013 7:35:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Impy; cripplecreek; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Yes, maybe Obama wouldn’t have all these second term Blues/disasters only IF he could run for a third term.

But waddabout GWB second term Blues 2005 to 2008 ? (too painful to recall details.)

Maybe those disasters woulds have been avoided only if he could have run again. Its magic.

Only if. The big ‘What if?’


61 posted on 11/30/2013 8:57:09 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We have already gone past the point of no return.

Agreed.

But that doesn't mean when the SHTF (thanks to them) that they are going to find it a cakewalk. Not where I am, anyway.

When social order breaks down, the knockdown homies will find that it's a lot tougher going after armed and belligerent folks than blindsiding old people on the sidewalk.

Right now, the law is restraining us, not them. When there is no law to restrain us, there will be a dramatic shift in the dynamics.

To paraphrase the Doors, we got the guns *and* we got the numbers.

62 posted on 11/30/2013 9:12:14 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As long as he spends his 3rd term BEHIND BARS AND SHACKLED !


63 posted on 11/30/2013 9:14:59 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (I'm not afraid to say what i mean nor should you be afraid of what you know to be true !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; a fool in paradise

What difference at this point in time does it make when you’ll have the Smartest Woman in the World in 2017 anyways?


64 posted on 11/30/2013 9:18:21 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: sickoflibs; Impy; Clintonfatigued; Clemenza; AuH2ORepublican; Perdogg; randita; GOPsterinMA; ...

I’m beginning to think limiting a President to a single term is a better bet. Too many get into trouble or run smack dab into mediocrity (or worse) going for a second term. It also relieves them of having to spend so much time on fundraising.

Think of some of the things that would’ve been avoided in the past century...

Wilson (1917-21): No WW1 entry (as likely 1916 winner Charles Evans Hughes would’ve probably kept us out).

FDR (1937-45): Failure to end the Depression his policies exacerbated might’ve led to a more Conservative Dem succeeding him (such as Cactus Jack Garner) and curtailing the policies. No successful effort to transform SCOTUS into big gubmint advocates, no purge of Conservatives from the Dem party. Perhaps a Republican elected by 1940 who would’ve run WW2 differently (and not allowed carte blanche Soviet sympathizers into governmental institutions) and no kowtowing to Stalin.

Truman (1949-53): Though technically a de facto second term, was largely a disaster across the board both domestically and abroad. No firing of Gen. MacArthur, who would’ve aggressively pursued Mao and drastically altered the dynamics of Asia for the long run.

Eisenhower (1957-61): Losing the Congress to Hooverian proportions in 1958, a one-party body effectively for 40 years.

LBJ (1965-69): (Like Truman, a de facto second term) No Great Society fiasco, overreach on the CRA, mishandled escalation of Vietnam.

Nixon (1973-74): With no second term to run for, no Watergate (and no blame on Republicans who paid dearly in 1974)

Reagan (1985-89): No Amnesty, no Iran-Contra, no loss of the Senate

Clinton (1997-2001): No second term sexcapades, no ChiCom deals for 2nd term campaign $$, no putting the country through an impeachment fiasco.

Bush II (2005-09): No losing the Congress, no bailouts or other gov’t expansions on his watch.

Zero (2013-17): Too numerous to list the fiascos, and those yet to come which will take decades to recover from.

I’m thinking probably the only President in the past century who did as well in his first and second terms was Calvin Coolidge. Left no disaster on his watch and got out when it was good to go (though I would’ve liked to have seen how he would’ve differed in handling the Depression, perhaps reducing it to a simple Panic of 1929).


65 posted on 11/30/2013 9:35:19 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Works for me as long as we go back to 1790 voting requirements. I mean heck, it was established law.


66 posted on 11/30/2013 9:40:18 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Democratic lawmakers would worry about provoking the wrath of a president who could be reelected. Thanks to term limits, though, they’ve got little to fear,” Zimmerman wrote, adding that a term-limited president does not “have to fear the voters, which might be the scariest problem of all.”

Kinda like Caesar.

67 posted on 11/30/2013 9:43:27 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: TomGuy
Won’t happen because 8 years is more than enough. After the last 3 two-termers, one 6-year term and out looks better.

Interestingly, that was one of the fixes in the Confederate Constitution of 1862....its Presidents could only be elected to single six-year terms. Of course the Confederacy never got to see how well it worked, with Jeff Davis defeated and captured four years into his term.

68 posted on 11/30/2013 9:48:50 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Yogafist
Or to the formula in Starship Troopers.
69 posted on 11/30/2013 10:17:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: skinny old man

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


70 posted on 11/30/2013 10:18:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: Zhang Fei

Goodness. It appears history professors sure are well paid. (dirty money laundering SOB)


71 posted on 11/30/2013 11:24:11 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; Impy; Clintonfatigued; Clemenza; AuH2ORepublican; Perdogg; randita; ...
You make a good case that all the Presidents in recent memory have had lousy second terms, with the exception of Coolidge. I know Mexico limits their President's to a single 6-year term (I'm not sure if they're allowed to have non-consecutive terms, I doubt it). It seems to work okay there, but the only place I can think where the U.S. does so is Virginia limiting their Governors to a single 4-year term. I'm not a fan of how that system has worked so far. The Republican A.G.'s all seem to see their term as existing for a stepping stone to Governor, and it rarely works out. Meanwhile, the RAT Governors decide to embark on a Senate career to stay in power, and unleash their destructive agenda nationally, while another equally socialist RAT gets elected Governor because the GOP can't tie him to the failures of the previous outgoing RAT Governor.

More intriguing to me is the Nebraska system of a unicameral legislature. I'm not sure if I'm a fan of the idea, especially on the federal level (but hey then the 17thers wouldn't have a issue once the eeeeeeeeeeeeevil popularly elected Senate was abolished!), but I could see a unicamerial legislature working for some states like Delaware and the Dakotas.

72 posted on 11/30/2013 11:27:55 PM PST by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: Timber Rattler
>> Interestingly, that was one of the fixes in the Confederate Constitution of 1862....its Presidents could only be elected to single six-year terms. Of course the Confederacy never got to see how well it worked, with Jeff Davis defeated and captured four years into his term. <<

I think in the hypothetical scenario that the Confederacy had still existed 6 years into Davis' term, what would have likely happened is the Confederate Congress would have passed legislation to grant him an "emergency extension" of his term. Had the confederacy still existed in 1866, they wouldn't have had the infrastructure to hold national elections for Presidency, nor would a transition of power to a new President be a good idea if they wanted to stabilize the new country. Similarly, the confederate constitution called for the establishment of a Supreme Court, but Davis' never appointed any judges and no court was convened during the entire five years of the war.

73 posted on 11/30/2013 11:35:11 PM PST by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

most of the amendments were progressive bs anyway. repeal all of them. see what happens to the progressive/socialists movement. we don’t need the first ten either because as a human being the rights in the bill are granted by god and as a government of the people cannot be abridged. Slavery was not required by the constitution and no amendment was needed to eliminated it. act of congress would have been sufficient.


74 posted on 12/01/2013 12:34:03 AM PST by kvanbrunt2 (i don't believe any court in this country is operating lawfully anyway)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

LBJ was only elected president once. While he may have served more than 4 years, he only served one term, and refused to run for re-election (a second term).


75 posted on 12/01/2013 12:38:04 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: BillyBoy
I could see a unicamerial legislature working for some states like Delaware and the Dakotas.

No thanks.

76 posted on 12/01/2013 12:45:01 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FDR died at 63 and looked a decade or two older. Getting to serve as many terms as you can win: Not as much fun as it sounds.


77 posted on 12/01/2013 12:51:11 AM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Instead of statewide vote counts, we count votes by county. Each winning county gets one vote and the most votes wins the state. I said to avoid voter fraud and a potential situation where there is rampant cheating, by counting votes by county, if Philly (where he is from) wants to vote at 125%, they can. It still only counts for one vote.

Sounds good to me.

78 posted on 12/01/2013 3:26:34 AM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Reward our friends,punish our enemies”. Sorry bad idea. Term limits reduce the amount of damage an ideologue can do


79 posted on 12/01/2013 3:47:20 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Get prepared for “Emergency Measures”. Once the race riots start and martial law is declared, he can stay in office.

This has been the goal all along.


80 posted on 12/01/2013 4:27:32 AM PST by esoxmagnum (Turtles don't win fights, they just turtle up. Victory belongs to the aggressor, not the turtle.)
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