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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I am arguing in favor of bringing back American jobs.

But, you don't state how. I'm looking for areas of agreement here. If you're talking about lowering the regulatory gauntlet and returning America to the pre-Jones & Laughlin Steel, pre-Darby, and pre-Wickard era of Commerce Clause jurisprudence, then I'm with you.

If you're talking about corporatism and crony capitalism via trade restrictions, I'm not.

How we do that is certainly up to everyone, but we have sold out American businesses.

You give me a little hope here, but "up to everyone" sounds like majority rule, not individual liberty. We got where we are by observing majority rule. I like liberty, individual liberty and as much of it as we can get.

In the meanwhile we have racked up $17 TRILLION DEBT, and growing. Debt. Debt. American debt.

I'll lump these statements all together for ease. You're right. Our debt is ours and came to us via majority rule and, in part, by allowing the government to expand on the Commerce Clause, making it an instrument of tyranny. This problem is uniquely American and is a spending, not a free trade problem.

We need to make things right here.

What things? Why things?

Bring back American jobs. Now.

Again this vague platitude carries no meaning. Define: American jobs, "now" and how you will do this. Jingoism isn't thoughtful.

42 posted on 11/29/2013 9:59:09 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
And China is hardly a Soviet-style monolith. It's a wild and wooly capitalist new frontier that today's Mandarins (formerly known as Communists) are barely holding on to with their fingernails. This saber-rattling is for domestic consumption, an attempt by the ruling class to appeal to nationalist impulses and yell "Look at meeeee! I'm still important!" For there is so much money sloshing around China right now that even the nine old men with a huge military and security state apparatus at their fingertips can't control much of what is happening, aside from publicly picking on unpopular groups like Tibetans, Falun Gong practitioners, and human rights activists. We aren't too many years away from the day that the Chinese moneyed class tells the Old Guard to shut the hell up - we are running things, now.

China's biggest economic problem is that its products are getting quite expensive. Not USA expensive, yet, but they are losing market share in some product categories to poorer countries like Vietnam, India, Bangladesh, the Philippines, and soon Myanmar. Consider the changes in Japan between 1950 and 1989 - China is most of the way through that same evolution.

52 posted on 11/29/2013 10:47:56 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: 1010RD
tariffs, Tariffs, TARIFFS,

TRARIFFS


65 posted on 11/30/2013 5:28:12 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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