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Disaster for Wall Street and White House
Townhall.com ^ | November 28, 2013 | Matt Towery

Posted on 11/28/2013 8:39:51 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 11/28/2013 8:39:51 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Oh I don’t know... ideology seems to trump everything else in today’s America - no matter the consequence.


2 posted on 11/28/2013 8:48:46 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: Kaslin

The Fed, sooner or later, will have to stop buying Treasuries. The problem with smoke and mirrors is that, eventually the smoke clears and the mirrors crack. With no one else willing to buy American debt, rates will, by necessity, have to shoot up. This will kill economic growth and further swell the deficit, as it will cost so much more to service the federal debt. If they choose not to stop, well, then there’s hyperinflation. Pick your poison.


3 posted on 11/28/2013 8:50:07 AM PST by fhayek
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To: Kaslin

It was soetoro who shut down the government. Guess this author needs a barrycade up....


4 posted on 11/28/2013 8:50:54 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Kaslin

Blah, blah, blah . . .

This article was already written . . .

In 2008

In 2009

In 2010

In 2011

In 2012 and now in 2013

What was that about a broken clock?

Meanwhile my clients are up 125% in the last four-plus years and some of them are up 36% just this year alone. What so many of these prognosticators fall short on is that in the REAL WORLD, advisors like I ACTUALLY have responsibility for our clients. Just like we conservatives like to talk about college professors in their ivory towers so must we also call out those bloggers who blithely live in theirs.


5 posted on 11/28/2013 8:50:59 AM PST by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Kaslin

Bump


6 posted on 11/28/2013 8:51:43 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Kaslin
Emboldened GOP conservative members of the House and Senate believe that Obamacare will be so unpopular by then that they will be capable of holding the raising of the debt ceiling hostage as a bargaining chip to kill off Obamacare. They might be right.

The conservatives would love to do this, but the GOPe will not try to kill obamacare until 2017 at the earliest. They think they will gain big majorities because of it in 2014 & 2016. I believe the flaw in their thinking is two fold; one, conservatives will not continue supporting a party that won't fight for them; two, by 2017 a large enough number of people will be dependent on the expanded Medicaid and subsidized insurance that the GOPe won't want to upset them.

7 posted on 11/28/2013 9:12:24 AM PST by wmfights
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To: LRoggy; Kaslin
Meanwhile my clients are up 125% in the last four-plus years and some of them are up 36% just this year alone.

Playing the market is for the younger investors. A major contributor to the growth in the markets is QE and when it does stop the markets will decline.

It's great you have clients that can jump in and out of the market to realize those gains and still see huge profits despite their tax brackets, higher capital gains taxes, and fees. As an older investor I began moving my investments into short term bonds a couple years ago because I'm at that point where I can't wait out another major downturn. At this point with the continued war on the productive in the USA, that doesn't seem to be coming to an end any time soon, I'm taking the funds from those bonds as they mature paying off my remaining debt in this country and expanding my purchases of real estate outside the USA.

8 posted on 11/28/2013 9:24:35 AM PST by wmfights
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To: LRoggy
Blah, blah, blah . . . <<<< This article was already written . . .

In 2008

In 2009

In 2010

In 2011

In 2012 and now in 2013 >>>>

blah, blah, blah to you too.
Prove it with the exact dates or otherwise crawl back under your rock. No one forced you to read the the article

9 posted on 11/28/2013 9:25:45 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

I had a professor who taught me “The Rational Man Theory Of Investing”. The problem is that people are greedy, chicken and irrational. Soros understands this and has made billions exploiting it.


10 posted on 11/28/2013 9:29:49 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Excellent points


11 posted on 11/28/2013 9:32:26 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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What the heck has gotten into you today? I’ve mostly positively commented on your many posts before. My beef is with all the doomster articles that appear here, particularly those from Zero Hedge and Karl Denninger, which have been promoting a market crash pretty much since the March 2009 lows - just search Zero Hedge and Karl Denninger in the search if you want proof.

Although Denninger is correct on the politics and on the federal government his market predictions are CHILDISHLY inaccurate the past 4-plus years.

I can’t believe you haven’t seen ANY of those posts, which pretty much were a daily occurrence until recently, when their accuracy was correctly pointed out by me and others here.

I expect a LOT MORE of you than to stoop to this type of response to me based on your past contributions to this site.


12 posted on 11/28/2013 9:42:43 AM PST by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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The Democrats staged the shutdown as they refused bill after bill funding the government. They held the US hostage to their demand that PPACA/Obamacare be funded even though they knew it was not ready. Republicans offered a one year delay so that the Democrat plan, Obamacare, could be made ready - Democrats refused to accept this, rejected multiple bills, and shut down parts of the government.

Don’t cede the narrative to these liars. The shutdown is entirely the work of the Democrats.

Remember the Barrycades!


13 posted on 11/28/2013 10:00:50 AM PST by Ray76
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To: wmfights

GOPe plays to “not lose”, the don’t play to win. They are passive.

Victory - and history - goes to the bold.


14 posted on 11/28/2013 10:02:47 AM PST by Ray76
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To: LRoggy

This is driving me nuts! The bottom line on my portfolio is ridiculously high versus what I have put in. Do I bail on something “too good to be true” or hang in. I’m making money and it is making me very nervous.


15 posted on 11/28/2013 10:05:20 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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Tal, I can’t give you that type of advice. I don’t have any sort of background info on your finances, needs, etc. I also don’t believe in one-size-fits all thinking. Sorry, but I can’t answer that in a public forum. If you want you can email me a private message here and I can give you my business email and we can make contact through that if you’d like.


16 posted on 11/28/2013 10:21:03 AM PST by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: LRoggy

The bottom line is, you haven’t made ANYTHING in a portfolio until you sell it (and successfully extract the money for that matter).

Most people, particularly on an individual level, will ride that 125% increase parabolicaly right back down...


17 posted on 11/28/2013 10:52:09 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: LRoggy

Most of the people that lost everything pulled their money out after the market was near the bottom. If they had left it alone they would be in a lot better shape. The ones that pulled some or most out during the downturn and then got right back in are sitting pretty.


18 posted on 11/28/2013 10:52:52 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: Ray76
Victory - and history - goes to the bold.

Man do you have that right!

This is why the GOPe strategy will fail. They won't be bold and once the fight starts they stand on the sidelines second guessing those that will fight. My campaign money goes to the conservative groups and Tea Party candidates.

19 posted on 11/28/2013 11:36:26 AM PST by wmfights
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I got out of the market at the top last time. Time before that I rode it out but we are in our 60’s now. I dollar cost averaged back in with about one third of our savings and the rest was returning about 4% in a fixed income instrument. Since I still work I was also investing about 2k per month in new money so I’ve made some money on Ben’s runup. But I can still get 3-4% and if I miss the top by 10 - 20% I don’t much care. Come the end of the year the equities are gone.


20 posted on 11/28/2013 2:26:24 PM PST by jwalsh07
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