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To: A'elian' nation

I will always defend those FALSELY accused of being deadbeat dads
Show me some evidence that he was a dead beat dad please. Everthing I have seen indicates the opposite.

Is the right of distant relatives to kidnap young children from their loving parents a cause you support?

Again, if you do not believe that parents have the right to raise their children and children do not have a right to be raised by their parents, then you do not believe in any individual human rights as parental rights are among the most basic and sacred ones.

Are you one of those Hilary Clinton, “It takes a village” types?

Let me guess, you have no children of your own do you?


71 posted on 11/27/2013 6:53:45 PM PST by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

I guess it’s too bad that Elian’s mother died enroute, trying to provide a better future for her son. Had she come ashore with him he’d be a U.S. Citizen today instead of a Party organ. Not sure why you’re happy about that.

I too believe in fathers’ rights. They’re too often ignored. It’s a huge travesty in American justice. I don’t, however, care about Elian’s fathers’ “rights”. Maybe to you that sounds inconsistent. I don’t really care. The decision to send Elian back was wrong. I can say that because I’m a thinking person that can tell right from wrong. Like any juror can decide what is important and what is not important. Justice relies on people, not robots. Elian had “dry feet” by the will of his mother who died to provide that for her son. Good enough for me. I listened to the empassioned pleas from his father still under the thumb of the communist dictator in Cuba. I don’t know if his testimony was forced or not, but the safe money is not bet on his freedom to speak candidly. I do know that his mother put far more on the line than his father did. I know that for sure. I’m making a decision in the view of all the evidence to believe that the mother’s intent wins. I can do that. I’m a thinking person. I get to make decisions like that. That’s what justice is all about.


72 posted on 11/27/2013 7:54:07 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

You keep saying - Everything you have read indicates support for your position - but that doesn’t mean anything to me. You sure haven’t shown anyone here any documentation supporting your opinion.

My god man - think - for once - There must be a reason why this deadbeat dad was no longer with Elian’s mother. And why she would risk death for freedom for her and her son.

The reason I am so passionate about this issue is that I was fortunate enough to come to this country when I was 5 years old. I came alone.

And yes I have a son, and if I had to choose between my selfish love for him or his freedom; I would give him his freedom.


73 posted on 11/28/2013 3:49:37 AM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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