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Airlines 'must warn China' of flight plans over disputed islands
The Guardian ^ | 11/26/2013 | Tania Branigan in Beijing

Posted on 11/26/2013 12:30:52 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Edited on 11/26/2013 12:58:39 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Airlines will have to warn China of their flight plans before entering airspace in the East China Sea, aviation officials have said, after it declared the creation of an "air defence zone" over islands that are also claimed by Japan.


(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; japan; senkaku
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1 posted on 11/26/2013 12:30:52 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

So who will shoot down
the first civilian airliner this year?

China? or al Qaeda with Clinton/Obama MANPADs?


2 posted on 11/26/2013 12:33:19 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow, on Maps Google, these islands are right up against the larger island of Japon. Korea looks like the closet neighbor. WHY would China think that these islands belong to them......


3 posted on 11/26/2013 12:34:34 PM PST by rovenstinez (,)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe those flights should be accompanied by F15’s


4 posted on 11/26/2013 12:37:59 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe it’s time for Japan to make up some thermonuclear warheads and fit them to missiles. .... Should take them about a week...


5 posted on 11/26/2013 12:38:28 PM PST by Bobalu (White Boy Think A Lot)
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7 posted on 11/26/2013 12:39:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Guess they are getting lessons from the soviets when they shot down the Korean Air 747.


8 posted on 11/26/2013 12:40:03 PM PST by Texas resident
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To: rovenstinez
WHY would China think that these islands belong to them......

Because they think they can get away with claiming them.

Like Hitler and...

9 posted on 11/26/2013 12:40:14 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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Wow, on Maps Google, these islands are right up against the larger island of Japon. Korea looks like the closet neighbor. WHY would China think that these islands belong to them......

They probably think everything in the south Pacific "belongs" to them, including Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, and New Zealand.

They're just testing the waters on this small amount of real estate now because they think they will be allowed to get away with it. By the current occupant of the White House, who obviously believes that the United States should no longer be "the world's policeman."

Instead, he thinks the world should be our policeman.

10 posted on 11/26/2013 12:40:50 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: null and void; rovenstinez

One word -— ENERGY.

Maps and texts from both [the two Chinese governments in Taipei and Beijing] during the period between 1895, when Japan seized the [Senkaku] islands, and 1971, when the claim was first mentioned, have three things in common:

(1) they always assign their sovereignty to Japan;

(2) they refer to them using the Japanese names; and

(3) they never refer to the disputed status of the islands.

Simply put, there was no “dispute” over the Senkaku until after scientists raised the possibility of oil in the area in the late 1960s.

People will go to war to control energy.

Ironically, we here in the USA REFUSE to tap what we have... Go Figure.


11 posted on 11/26/2013 12:45:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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But, hey, lets do more Free Trade with Communist China...that will work.


12 posted on 11/26/2013 12:46:34 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (2014: Real Conservatives Only, Please)
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reminds me of the mess that is the Spratley's

Southwest Cay was once controlled by the Philippines but one night all the troops left to attend a birthday party and south Vietnam invaded and took it.

Some of the PRC controlled islands now have been built up, one (Mischief Cay) sports 13 multi-story buildings


13 posted on 11/26/2013 12:46:51 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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Red China also believes that it owns Taiwan - so it believes it is really just as close to Senkaku as Japan is.

You have to follow the Communist logic to its beginning.

14 posted on 11/26/2013 12:46:56 PM PST by wideawake
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did a blind 4 year old make that map?


15 posted on 11/26/2013 12:47:23 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: wideawake

technically speaking, Taiwan also believes it owns Red China.... good luck to them with that repo


16 posted on 11/26/2013 12:49:12 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: SeekAndFind

According to the Great Circle mapping, from San Francisco and Los Angeles to Hong Kong flies over the Chinese mainland but not near the area of the disputed islands. This means the new defensive zone may not affect flights of United Airlines, Singapore Airlines and Cathay Pacific Airways between San Francisco/Los Angeles and Hong Kong.


17 posted on 11/26/2013 12:58:27 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: rovenstinez

Why? because there is lots of oil there.


18 posted on 11/26/2013 1:11:20 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind
US B-52s Fly Over Disputed Territory
19 posted on 11/26/2013 1:27:45 PM PST by Regulator
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Cunundrum:
The islands are believed Japanese sovereign

Announcing to China you are overflying begins giving them de facto territory.

On the one hand I wouldn’t want to be shot down on the other “they can stuff it”.


20 posted on 11/26/2013 1:59:03 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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