Posted on 11/26/2013 11:22:48 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
I can take it. It’s just that it’s a lot of lies
It was a lie when you called me an anti-Catholic bigot. If they're God's people, they're my people. I hate to see my people dragged into the false doctrine of economic liberalism.
Your statement makes no sense.
If you want to opine on the pope’s statements, read them.
Why anyone takes the liberal media’s propagandist spin on what the pope says is simply beyond anything I can reason.
But it happens here all the time, and then there’s a gleeful pile on over an issue that always comes out to be untrue.
And there is an inevitable attack on me, a personal attack.
If you don’t like being identified as a bigot, you might want to check the definition and be sure that your dislike of it is not over what is true. but not liking it alone does not make it untrue.
What you said about me, such as taking everything this man says as more important and more infallible than what Jess says, illustrates that you, in your prejudice, are willing to generalize about Catholics, about which you really know little, and attribute those misconceptions onto me. and having a mob with you, in agreement, you attack me.
None of what you said about me nor Catholics is true.
Review the Catechism, as I have, go to Mass, read what the Pope said, here.
And cite, where it says in the Bible, anything you said about Catholics, you won’t be able to.
Just because you and your people say that Catholics do not base their beliefs on the Bible, doesn’t make it true. The Mass is from the Bible, as are the Sacraments, as are all the readings we witness at Mass every day.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
I did. He rails against Reaganomics.
If you don’t like being identified as a bigot, you might want to check the definition and be sure that your dislike of it is not over what is true. but not liking it alone does not make it untrue.
Who says I don't like it? You let your assumptions be known, which let me let my assumptions be known. I liked the opportunity to make that post. I think its a very dangerous thing to put that kind of trust in any man other than Jesus. Naturally as a Protestant, I follow no man other than Jesus word for word. I listen to teachers and preachers, some of which I agree with 99% of the time, but just because I think they're right 99% of the time doesn't mean I'll contort myself to go over the cliff on that last 1%. That last 1% can cost your soul dearly. I listen to teachers and preachers for direction, then see if they are in agreement with scripture.
What you said about me, such as taking everything this man says as more important and more infallible than what Jess says,...
I never said that. I said that no man has a direct source to perfect wisdom.
...illustrates that you, in your prejudice, are willing to generalize about Catholics, about which you really know little, and attribute those misconceptions onto me. and having a mob with you, in agreement, you attack me.
What mob? Just me and you over the last several posts.
Just because you and your people say that Catholics do not base their beliefs on the Bible, doesn’t make it true. The Mass is from the Bible, as are the Sacraments, as are all the readings we witness at Mass every day.
I never said that either.
You should read what you wrote. None of it is true. Every sentence is untrue.
Get away from me.
“That’s the problem with claiming any man besides Jesus having a direct source of perfect wisdom. Whether a politician or a religious figure, they will ultimately let you down because only Jesus was perfect in wisdom in the flesh. Because you claim that a certain man should lead without question, now you must contort yourself when he shows himself to not be infallible, and you even have to go against long established conservative standards such as supply side economics in order to cling to the believe that this man should lead the world spiritually.”
I think the Catholic church sees itself as pursuing some kind of third way.
This is a mistake, since free markets are a vehicle through which freedom, prosperity, and even faith are provided to the suffering. Those who speak out against capitalism are prolonging their agonies.
Has the pope said anything untrue?
Your change of subject is a good place for me to cut this off
Economic history has demonstrated that a free market is not only the natural order of nature, as God planned it, but also the greatest force for prosperity and happiness. That's a given on FR. Unfortunately, the Catholic church would view that statement as rank idolatry, as you put it.
My observation concerning Ratzinger related to his admonition against Marxism and Marxist constructs, 'capitalism' being one. I referenced his views as a Cardinal, not as Pope, since I think that they reflect his personal views. An example is Market Economy and Ethics, an article he presented in 1985. You will note that Ratzinger had only mild criticism of free markets, but came down hard on Marxism. I miss him.
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