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Large employers cite upcoming Obamacare Cadillac tax for reduced benefits
Hotair ^ | 11/26/2013 | Mary Katherine Ham

Posted on 11/26/2013 6:05:15 AM PST by SeekAndFind

See? There’s something in this law for everyone, just not exactly the way they said.

But take heart, America. Brian Williams of the NBC Nightly News is on it, sending investigative reporters to look into the “fine print” of Obamacare. Isn’t that something that would have been more useful four years ago?

Now NBC’s found out that large companies— add ‘em to the small companies and individual market plans—are also reducing benefits, raising co-pays and deductibles to cope with Obamacare’s new costs. So, if you have a catastrophic plan in the individual market, you’re losing the plan you may have liked for the privilege of paying more. If you had a middle-of-the-road individual market plan you liked, you’re losing that plan for the privilege of paying more often for fewer benefits. If you had a decent plan at a small employer, you’re likely to get dumped into the exchanges as mandate-heavy health care plans get too expensive for small businesses to afford. If you have a plan you like at a medium-sized employer, you’re likely to get dumped into the exchanges next year when the employer mandate kicks in, and your costs are already rising or benefits are going down. If you’re at a large employer with a very nice health insurance plan, sorry, you’re now going to have reduced benefits to avoid the “Cadillac” tax.

For 75 million Americans who get their insurance through large companies, the Affordable Care Act is a mixed bag. Experts tell NBC News the new healthcare law is only slightly increasing premiums next year, but causing some companies with the most generous plans to reduce their employees’ benefits.

Aaron Baker, 36, his wife Billie and their two young children are covered under a generous health insurance plan offered by the private Midwestern university where he’s worked for 10 years. When they opened their benefits notice this year, they were pleased to see their $385 premium is only up by four dollars next year. However, they were shocked to discover that instead of covering the first dollar they spend with no deductible, the Baker’s plan now includes a $1,000 deductible and a $2,500 out of pocket maximum. They also will still have small co-pays for services.

According to the enrollment notice, the changes are “to relieve future health plan trend pressure and to put the university in a position to avoid the excise tax that becomes effective in 2018.” The 40 percent excise tax—often called the “Cadillac tax”— is part of Obamacare and is levied on the most generous health plans. It’s designed to bring down overall health costs by making companies and workers more cost-conscious. The thinking is that if consumers have to pay more expenses themselves, through higher deductibles and out-of-pocket expenses, they’ll avoid unnecessary or overly costly procedures. And that is supposed to make care more affordable for everyone.

Billie Baker doesn’t think much of that concept. “I think that saying that your insurance is too good so we’re going to give you a penalty,” she said, “is sort of outrageous to me.”

For the record, the idea that consumers paying more expenses themselves might help overall health costs by encouraging fewer unnecessary procedures is perfectly reasonable. The problem is we’re only encouraging it in people who already pay for their own plans without taxpayer help. When the taxpayer foots the bill, as with Medicare, there’s little to no incentive to reduce spending. And, of course, in Obamacare as pitched, there were no losers. The Bakers were supposed to have what they liked and be able to keep it.

Note the Obama administration’s defense. This is, once again, a “small percentage” of people and “there’s nothing in the law that tells you you need to raise copays or deductibles.” Those damn insurance companies, following the law and trying to stay in business again.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; cadillacplans; cadillactax; cancellations; obamacare; tax

1 posted on 11/26/2013 6:05:15 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
We just misquoted them. They meant to say, "There is something in the law to hurt everyone."
2 posted on 11/26/2013 6:09:49 AM PST by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: SeekAndFind

The aim was, is, and always will be SINGLE PAYER SOCIALIZED MEDICINE! Obama said it himself. The rest is all a lead up to the final act curtain.


3 posted on 11/26/2013 6:15:22 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind

The real news here is that NBC is reporting it.


4 posted on 11/26/2013 6:17:12 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: Don Corleone

They already have a name-Medicad.


5 posted on 11/26/2013 6:21:34 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: SeekAndFind

It will be interesting to see the impact of Obamacare on the economy in 2014. Individuals and businesses paying more for healthcare insurance will spend less on other things.

While the focus of government and the media has been rising (or not) premiums, what matters for the individual consumer is total cost including deductibles and copays. Even if the individual’s premiums do not increase, rising deductibles and copays will take a bite out of disposable income if the individual requires health care services. This increase is substantial for some people and may result in people not consuming healthcare services. For example if I have a $6000 deductible, will I go to the emergency room at 3:00 am with chest pains, where I’ll get a $10,000 bill and have to fork out my deductible, or will I wait until 8:00 am to go to the doctor’s office where the bill will be about $200? How consumers in the aggregate respond will determine the impact of Obamacare on consumer spending and ultimately GDP.


6 posted on 11/26/2013 6:26:50 AM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Soul of the South
I'm going to be interested as well. My last major trip to the emergency room (heart attack) resulted in a $30,000 bill to me under the old system. After insurance. After catestrophic coverage, aka "Major Medical." Which I finally paid off. (The insurance carrier was de-certified in my state after this, which says I'm not the only one affected by the "problem".)

I'm going to insist next time that for all procedures and services, I receive an estimate of the cost, and be told the cost/benefit thereto.

If Obamacare is so effective in reducing costs, why not make insurance premiums deductable for all taxpayers? Why not make major direct billing deductable for all taxpayers? I calculated what the tax benefit would be to declare my $30K, and found the result to be ZERO BENEFIT, because I didn't have enough other deductions. Leading a frugal life is being punished.

7 posted on 11/26/2013 6:50:26 AM PST by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: Soul of the South

Not a good example. My doc’s automated phone answering system tells you to hang up and call 911 if having chest pains. Very doubtful a doc office will schedule an appointment for chest pains. But I do get your point.


8 posted on 11/26/2013 6:50:44 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: WinMod70

“Not a good example. My doc’s automated phone answering system tells you to hang up and call 911 if having chest pains. Very doubtful a doc office will schedule an appointment for chest pains. But I do get your point.”

I just went through this exercise. The chest pains were gall bladder related.


9 posted on 11/26/2013 7:15:01 AM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: HarleyD

NBC (and the rest of the MSM) are reacting to their internal polling which shows this will be a CATASTROPHIC EVENT for the Democrat Party.

Obama and their elites still too stubborn to admit that. Media trying to drag them there kicking and screaming before its too late.


10 posted on 11/26/2013 7:42:29 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ingtar
We just misquoted them. They meant to say, "There is something in the law to hurt everyone."

...if your health plan is sub-standard, you will be punished...if your health plan is above standard, you will be punished...

11 posted on 11/26/2013 7:46:51 AM PST by ghost of nixon
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You said...
“Obama and their elites still too stubborn to admit that. Media trying to drag them there kicking and screaming before its too late.”

I think their internal polls are worse than those we are seeing. I have been noticing more anti Obamacare news stories lately, even from the MSM, than pro.

I think you’re on to something. This isn’t good, investigative journalism. This is a scout sending warnings to their allies


12 posted on 11/26/2013 7:54:27 AM PST by LMAO ("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush)
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To: ghost of nixon

If you refuse a patient, you will be punished. If you treat a patient who did not sign up, you will be punished and pay their fine.


13 posted on 11/26/2013 9:41:51 AM PST by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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