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Japan Answers China’s Warnings Over Islands’ Airspace
NYT ^ | 11/25/2013 | Martin Fackler

Posted on 11/25/2013 8:54:46 AM PST by mojito

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To: Patton@Bastogne
and gave the U.S. Navy quite a run for it's money in the 1940s ...

even though their top admirals knew it was a losing effort from the start if it wasn't a crippling blow on Dec 7

21 posted on 11/25/2013 5:11:09 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: USAF80

The Japanes can build overnight a nuke force the way the Saudis are contemplating it. And their missiles are much more precise. They also have a vast civil defense underground tunnel complex. They can rebuild in no time.


22 posted on 11/25/2013 5:33:48 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: lavaroise

The Japanese have all the components they need. They have a mature space program and can easily build the missiles they need for nukes. They have more than enough fissile material to build plenty of nukes, and probably are just waiting for a go-ahead to assemble already manufactured bomb components.

The one thing they’re short of is manpower, what with an aging population that is a fraction of the size of Chinas. They make up for that with scientific expertise and a robust self-defense capability (they don’t buy antique ships from former USSR states).


23 posted on 11/25/2013 6:04:23 PM PST by roadcat
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To: roadcat

I hope something happens to stop china because IMHO they are still a warlord society.


24 posted on 11/25/2013 6:20:42 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: lavaroise

I dunno about you, but the only China I’ll side with is the RoC.


25 posted on 11/25/2013 6:54:13 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Impeach 0bama)
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To: mojito

Ancient enemies, with deep, long-held animosities, and modern weapons. Never a good combination.


26 posted on 11/26/2013 9:06:01 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: roadcat; LibLieSlayer

They defeated them a few times through history.

Kublai Khan sent an invasion force from China against the Japanese as well, twice - in 1274 and 1281.

Typhoons - the “Kamikaze” Divine Wind destroyed much of the fleets both times, and those Mongol troops that did manage to land on the islands Tsushima and Iki butchered the Japanese who lived there.

There’s certainly no love between these two, for sure... Two ancient cultures with long memories, and even longer grudges.


27 posted on 11/26/2013 9:19:06 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

... but won’t it tip over?


28 posted on 11/26/2013 12:20:07 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Jet Jaguar; AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster; All

OH BOy why I get the feeling they going call in certain Big Lizard


29 posted on 11/26/2013 2:35:14 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: mojito

I bet Japan is feeling real good after watching Pres Homo abandon Israel.


30 posted on 11/26/2013 2:43:45 PM PST by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

........lived there two years during my military service. I will never forget the so called snake lines where hundreds of Japanese would form 5-10 abreast and arm in arm in columns hundreds of feet long and just snake back and forth across the street sweeping anybody out of their way.

Unfortunately for them, in front of this American Naval Base, there were always many times more Japanese Riot Police than demonstrators and they were fun to watch because they were so well trained and equipped.

The majority of Japanese though by far supported the US presence and indeed the US generally. We had many GOOD Japanese friends there who we stayed in touch with for decades.


31 posted on 11/26/2013 2:51:16 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Cen-Tejas
In 1956 or 57, the “Zengakuran Students Federation” a Communist front organization, snaked danced past our house, across the street from the base at Yokohama. They spotted by dad's Packard, closed in on it and got it flipped over on its top. It was then set on fire.
As a parting gift, they painted a hammer and sickle on our front door.

Been there...

32 posted on 11/26/2013 3:25:36 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

We can’t station more troops on Guam, the island is dangerously close to capsizing.


33 posted on 11/26/2013 3:28:47 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You were a dozen odd years ahead of me. I was in Sasebo at Fleet Activities Base attached to ComServGru3.

I don’t remember any violence connected to the snake lines in Sasebo. My recollections are that these young Japanese were just having fun more than anything.


34 posted on 11/26/2013 3:44:01 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Cen-Tejas
My folks and I were in Japan 1951-1961.
I made 6 trips across the Pacific via MSTS (the Army's Navy.)

We lived in Sagamihara and Yokohama, returning stateside when I was 13 years old.

35 posted on 11/26/2013 4:35:35 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: lavaroise

My thoughts are they already have a few nukes. They have the brain power and the raw materials.

There is a book written by an Army intelligence officer right after WW2. He claims that the Japanese were closer than the Germans to developing a working nuke. (the reason we nuked them so fast) He says the lab was in Tokyo but moved to Korea out of reach of US bombers towards the end of the war.

They found evidence of a dismantled lab with traces of radiation where they thought it was. The scientist disappeared after the war and the story is they along with all the lab work was taken by the Russians. (reason why the Russian nuke program happened so quickly)

The Japanese confirmed that the scientists disappeared. They have been moot about the nuke development efforts though. The Russians never confirmed nor denied what was in the book.


36 posted on 11/26/2013 5:56:41 PM PST by USAF80
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Two tours at Yokota.


37 posted on 11/26/2013 5:57:52 PM PST by USAF80
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To: Cen-Tejas

One of my buddies lives in Yokohama. He says relations between the Japanese and the GIs are strained now. They are even thinking about a country wide curfew like the one in place in Korea. The GIs are the ones causing problems.


38 posted on 11/26/2013 6:04:12 PM PST by USAF80
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To: mojito

Akio Morita, founder of Sony and the iconic Walkman.

He was an engineer for the Navy during the war.

His task? The Japanese effort for a NUCLEAR BOMB.

My belief is they already have a few nukes and they’re probably lookin very seriously in secret about air to air refueling etc.

I think the also need to accelerate efforts for an official carrier and more subs, which can be more heavily automated.


39 posted on 11/26/2013 6:10:59 PM PST by gaijin
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No secret about air to air refueling. They have been doing it for years. The have four 767 tankers in their inventory and prior to those they used to refuel off our tankers.


40 posted on 11/26/2013 6:19:14 PM PST by USAF80
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