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To: Paul R.
If you support open trade and zero tariffs you are defacto supporting the income tax.

You can deny it all you want but it is fact. Due to the disruptive nature and adverse impact on the middle class low and/or no import tariffs are part of the progressive/communist agenda "Komrade". You should know that.

130 posted on 11/26/2013 3:18:11 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
If you support open trade and zero tariffs you are defacto supporting the income tax.

Wrong. I oppose both income taxes and most (but not all) high tariffs. Neither are sensible or (as presently implemented / apply to most people) honest ways to fund the gov't. What I support is an end-consumer national sales tax.

Due to the disruptive nature and adverse impact on the middle class low and/or no import tariffs are part of the progressive/communist agenda "Komrade".

Having been a (sort of) white collar but middle class citizen heavily involved in various aspects of manufacturing for many years, and having rather painfully and directly experienced the "adverse impacts on the middle class" personally, I know how easy it is to fall into the trap of looking for a simple solution to the problem of a weakened middle class. Unfortunately for the middle class, there are far more powerful forces at work than a lack of import tariffs.

Incidentally, the people I worked with and discussed these issues with were not a bunch of academics: They were highly practical, mostly middle class conservative people who sure as heck didn't want to lose their jobs or small businesses. But we generally (with certain specific situational exceptions) concluded that blanketing imports with high tariffs was at best a wash in the short through medium term, and looking further out, almost certainly detrimental if maintained in a general fashion in the long run. Milton Friedman concluded much the same, in much greater depth. If you want to call us all "Komrades", well, fine. It certainly demonstrates the strength of your argument.

131 posted on 11/26/2013 9:25:24 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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