Posted on 11/20/2013 10:00:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Kennedy screwed up by not posting a man on watch. Lucky to escape punishment before a naval board of inquiry when he went back to the States.
Irish PM Eamon De Valera sent the German embassy in Dublin a note of condolence when Hitler died.
I thought Rob Lowe looked better than JFK.
On a trip to Ireland a few years ago my wife (who grew up in England) and I were having breakfast at a B&B (Kenmore?)sitting next to an Irish tour bus driver at another table. We started exchanging pleasantries. My wife’s still noticeable English accent came to the man’s attention. She said she left England many years before. The man allowed that he wouldn’t hold that against her then.
not only that, as if that’s not enough, he really lost the Cuban Missile Crisis by promising not to invade Cuba. He handed the Soviets a base in the western hemisphere for free. We received nothing.
From their base in Cuba the Soviets were able to export communist propoganda and movements throughout both the northern and southern hemispheres.
Yep. The CMC was a heck of a win.....for Kruschev.
You mean Nixon...not Goldwater. Goldwater ran in 1964.
One of my best friends in high school was Catholic. His family and the girl I mentioned were the only two I knew. They were a bit of a curiosity but no one hated them or wished any bad will towards them.
The girl I mentioned had a Polish name. The county I grew up in, Walton County, was nearly 100% descended from Highland Scots from the Western Islands. Even as late as 1960, well over half the population had Scottish names.
The tiny Catholic Church is named St. Margaret of Scotland.
Don't forget the Cuban missile crisis was the Soviet reaction to our putting missiles in Turkey.
He nearly caused WWIII.
Sorry, my mistake. You meant in the current polls at the time of his death. Even so, the amount of abuse Goldwater received by the media probably would have tilted things in Kennedy’s favor. It was as prejudiced against conservatives then as it is today. Goldwater was treated as the second coming of Satan by the honorable idiots in the press. And coming out against the civil rights bill ensured that he lost sizable numbers of black voters. In 1960 Nixon got 32% of the black vote. Goldwater only got about 6%.
McCain almost outdid JFK when he nearly sank the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal.
My uncle vaguely knew Kennedy and those who served with him in the Pacific. He was always trying to get special favors and was given the shaft by the higher-ups who were too far away for Joe's retaliation on them--hence his nickname was "Old Shafty"--true story...
One way to play with the mind of a liberal — remember, they tend to worship the memory of JFK, so tell them Obama isn’t fit to carry JFK’s jock strap.
It puts ‘em in a quandary.... are they going to denigrate JFK’s legacy by bringing him down to Obama’s level or let the insult to Obama stand....
Interesting. I like Nock's writing -- must check that one out. His writing on education is brilliant.
Very interesting. Thanks.
You need to discount two of McCain’s plane losses. One was during the Forrestal fire when a Zuni rocket on a Phantom accidentally went of and hit his Skyhawk. The other was when his Skyhawk got hit by a SAM. A good number of good pilots got shot down by SAM’s.
However, while the press attacked him he was still ahead of Kennedy in the polls of those days. If I remember correctly blacks were not as likely to vote in 1064 Goldwater had a good shot, even Kennedy was worried-that is why he went to Texas.
I never saw his father Joe, but he had an evil reputation at the hotel, for trying to seduce girls working there. Of course that was some years before.
One Sunday morning I ran into Bobby sneaking out of Mass early, and got his autograph. Bobby looked perfectly healthy.
As for the Cuban Missile Crisis:
1. The real reason why the missiles were pulled out of Cuba was that Fidel Castro and Che Guevara were actively planning to take control of the missiles and launch them.
2. The removal of the Jupiter missiles were already being planned in 1961. These were stop gap weapons, above ground and vulnerable to attack. The Soviets already knew the locations, one group of missiles was overflown by a reconnaisance MiG flying out of Bulgaria. The Jupiters also used liquid oxygen, which resulted in a slow response time. So they were just about obsolete by 1961. By the time the Jupiters were phased out, Minuteman ICBM’s were on line, as well as the first Polaris subs. So 15 Jupiters were removed from Turkey, to be replaced by maybe one George Washington class SSBN with 16 missiles, which could be launched as soon as the sub got the go order and reached launch depth. And just where the heck is that sub? (question asked by the Soviets, until John Walker spilled the beans).
A very true article. I remember being taught in school that JFK was the best president and a Hero that was tragically slayed. I really believed it myself until I got the opportunity to do a report on the bay of Pigs, then it all unraveled for me.
I realized for the first time that the real JFK was not a hero portrayed by the press even today but rather an incompetent idiot.
A man that actually believed withdrawing vital support from an attack to overthrow a dictator would have any effect but doom the mission and drive that dictator into the hands of our enemy. That revelation of course led to my discovering what really happened in the missile crisis. JFK didn’t heroically stand down the soviets as I was taught in school, he just gave them what they wanted our missiles in turkey. All that drama and near war was over nothing.
The press loved this man and for the first time he proved that was enough to overcome any level of gross incompetents in politics. In a lot of ways this guy was and is like Obama, The big difference was he diden’t live long enough for his enormous failures to becomes to large as to be impossible for the press to cover up. So LBJ got blamed instead.
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