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To: cloudmountain
Maybe that "fair chance" that you live abroad is good to remind you of the BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

The people you are arguing against are those trying to point out how to KEEP the best country in the world, and not just remember it nostalgically. From reading your posts, it appears you believe that the U.S. is a static nation - that the fact of having inalienable rights identified on paper makes those rights inviolable.

The people you are arguing against are trying to tell you that crap like the roadblocks discussed on this thread are inherently violations of those inalienable rights. Acceptance of this by subjects - er citizens - is the alienation of those inalienable rights.

Oh - I, too, have been overseas and fully appreciate the greatness of this country. I want to keep that greatness as more than a memory.

134 posted on 11/20/2013 7:05:34 AM PST by MortMan (We've gone from ‘failure is not an option’ to ‘failure is not an obstacle’.)
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To: MortMan
The people you are arguing against are those trying to point out how to KEEP the best country in the world, and not just remember it nostalgically. From reading your posts, it appears you believe that the U.S. is a static nation - that the fact of having inalienable rights identified on paper makes those rights inviolable.
I wonder what I said to give you the impression that I think that the U.S. is a static nation.
Also, how does having inalienable rights on paper make those rights inviolable? I sure don't think they do. My father fought in World War II, in North Africa and then Anzio. Why would I not believe wholeheartedly in our inalienable rights? He fought for them and it cost him...

The people you are arguing against are trying to tell you that crap like the roadblocks discussed on this thread are inherently violations of those inalienable rights.
Question: are ALL roadblocks inherent violations of our inalienable rights? Are there no acceptable and useful roadblocks? I live in a city and we don't have roadblocks unless there is street construction.

Acceptance of this by subjects - er citizens - is the alienation of those inalienable rights.
Accepting a roadblock is the alienation of our inalienable rights? Interesting logic. I don't understand your logic but I won't be screaming at you and calling you a troll because I don't understand your logic.

Oh - I, too, have been overseas and fully appreciate the greatness of this country. I want to keep that greatness as more than a memory.
Amen to that.
I lived in Mexico for two years and in Saudi Arabia for five years (with my husband).

161 posted on 11/20/2013 5:28:12 PM PST by cloudmountain
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