Posted on 11/18/2013 6:54:23 PM PST by South40
Well without third party confirmation there is no there there.
Is there a third party or evidence of any sort to back her up.
Frankly if someone pointed a gun at me you wouldn't have to push me out of the house and barricade the door so that I can't come in. I would be 5 blocks away within seconds -- not in the same room with him.
So, any domestic incident, short of physical violence that leaves a mark, cannot be criminal?
My mother called 911, not once, but two separate times because her husband was threatening to kill her. The police told her there was nothing that they could do despite the marks on her neck, a black eye, and a bloody nose. They said that it was a he said, she said.
Other considerations can come into play, even in a “he said, she said” scenario - things like the relative credibility of the accuser/accused’s stories, history of similar conduct, etc. Not saying that stuff would resolve this case (we don’t know enough to say), just that your approach would effectively de-criminalize large amounts of criminal behavior.
To be clear, other evidence becomes the equivalent of other witnesses, e.g. a video recording or evidence that disproves the claims of the accused and proves the claims of the acuser.
If all you have is your word against another person and you are the acuser, you have no case. And in this case, the broken table doesn’t help much. Glass tables are easy to break with the right hard object. Just drop a skillet on one.
You’re right. She probably gently carried his stuff outside and carefully placed in on the lawn. Probably gingerly put bubble wrap around it so it wouldn’t get damaged. Yep, that must have been how it went because that’s how all these pack-your-shiite-up-and-get-outta-my-house situations work.
GZ said she was pg. The cops say she isn’t.
So what would be enough evidence to corroborate her story?
Out of curiosity, how long ago was this?
So what would be enough evidence to corroborate her story?
There are all sorts of mean things you can do to another person when it’s just the two of you that, should the other person pursue legal action, would have no chance whatsoever in a court of law. Civil court is another matter. They can be all over the map, and often are.
What kind of physical evidence would indicate that a gun was pointed at her?
Also, regarding the table: She said he smashed the table. The table was smashed. It’s too early to say whether that’s enough (as you note, he may have some other explanation of how the table was broken), but the broken table would tend to corroborate her statement. Are you saying that accusactions of breaking someone’s things are only actionable if those things are hard to break?
What kind of physical evidence would indicate that a gun was pointed at her?
Sans that it is a hollow accusation and not really relevant.
It was in the 90s in New Jersey.
If a guy pointed a gun at you, would you stand there in the same room with him arguing about broken sun glasses???
If he then pushed you out of the house with the gun in hand, would you stand outside the door and argue to be left back in???
If you called 911 during this time would your first words be that he broke my table and sun glasses or that he has me at gunpoint???
Also he claimed their argument was partly about her pregnancy and wanting to raise their child alone and it turns out she's not pregnant
Good points. However, I am over George Zimmerman, there is just something not quite right with him. It’s that “where there is smoke thingy.”
“there is just something not quite right with him.”
He was put through hell and has no prospect of supporting himself or a decent relationship. And still has the POTUS on his a$$.
Not to mention a bunch of ‘would be gangstas’ out to make a name for themselves.
Considering the near universal criticism here of his behavior I’m amazed that you’re amazed that his behavior is condoned LOL!
Perhaps you’re confusing morality and legality.
Among George’s problems is that he falls for bad actresses like this one.
Among the police’s problem is that they fall for bad actresses like this one in domestic abuse claims.
Among the media’s problem is that they promote bad acting from bad actresses like this one.
Don’t fall into the same trap.
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